Broadcom is laying off 1,267 Palo Alto-based VMware workers following its acquisition of the company

Chip manufacturer Broadcom wrote the latest chapter in the long story of return-to-office tensions between bosses and employees.

After completing its $69 billion acquisition of cloud computing company VMWare, Broadcom CEO Hock Tan issued a direct order to his new employees about where they must work. “If you live within 50 miles of an office, you get your butt in here,” he told the workers of previously remote-friendly VMWare.

The comments came during a meeting Tan hosted on Tuesday after the merger between the two companies officially closed, following approval from Chinese regulators. Like many other executives, Tan cited in-person work’s benefits to collaboration and company culture. “Collaboration is important and a key part of sustaining a culture with your peers, with your colleagues,” he said.

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    Hahaha.

    1. Fuck off

    2. A 50mi commute where I am is going to be ~2 hours each way due to traffic. That’s 4hrs each day of lost life which, if I had to do, I’d demand to be compensated for. At even a low 225 days a year that’s 900 hours of time at tech-level per hour pay.

    3. There are no collaboration benefits. My Product Manager friend and I disagree on this greatly - but I’m still confident from an engineering standpoint that there is no material value add to in-person meetings that cannot be realized remotely with simple concessions (if anything at all).

    4. There are a significant increase in distractions, long lunches, arriving late, leaving early (to name a few) = significant decrease in productivity / output.

    5. A lot of tech places where I am that are 40-50 miles away will require me to pay for parking. Screw that.

    RTO can die. Commercial landlords can burn for all I care. I do feel bad for neighboring small businesses that are negatively impacted by the loss of foot traffic - but if my area is at all indicative, many of them just left the city and went suburban or rural and are just as successful with lower rents.

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      I’m going to take point three a step further and suggest there are ENHANCED collaboration benefits for virtual meetings, of course depending on the field.

      I work in a field that produces a shit ton of SOPs and technical documents. We’re better able to collaborate when we can all work on a document simultaneously instead of having one person input all the changes while we do our best to explain to them what we want them to do.

      There has been so much meeting time dedicated to something like “up three lines… No, three, so one more line. Now go there… Keep going… You got it. Okay, now add ‘this’… No, that’s not quite right, try ‘that’ instead,” and so on. So much wasted time.

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      That drove me crazy about my hybrid schedule. It didn’t matter whether I was in the office or not. All communications were via slack and email and all meetings were via Zoom. There was not one single reason for me to be in that office.

      And it wasn’t even a ‘sunk cost on real estate’ issue. The office was attached to a production facility. If they got rid of it, they could add more production lines. Fucking moronic.

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      Probably, but the tech industry has cooled a little. They’ll bail, but they won’t bail as quickly as they’d like to bail.

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        If this happened to me the first thing I’d do is start looking for other jobs. The second thing I would do is start giving the absolute bare minimum effort possible without getting fired.

        This CEO is a fucking idiot. In what I assume is an attempt to increase productivity he’s just caused his entire workforce to not give a fuck about their jobs anymore.

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        Really, this is what will happen. People will eat the shit sandwhich in the short term, but as hiring at other firms picks up in the coming years they’ll lose all of their talent to higher paying companies. Then they’ll complain about no one wanting to work or not being able to find good hires.

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      I think that’s the idea. Why do costly layoffs when people can just be led to quit? This issue is politicized so they’ll have cover.

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      Note that broadcom is notorious for buying a company with “captive” customers and gouging the customers while slashing expenses.

      They are ecstatic to have people quit and they don’t even care if the “good” ones quit, because they just need to gouge VMware customers for a few years and if VMware becomes a dried up husk of a company, they roll their revenue into a new company to vampire into oblivion.

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      Come on over baby

      Whole lotta quittin’ going on

      Come on over baby

      Baby you can’t go wrong

      Ain’t no bullshittin’

      Whole lotta quittin’ going on

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    Travel between worksites is on the clock.

    We’ve demonstrated for years now that home is a worksite.

    I’m happy to drive in to the company office from my personal office, so long as my commute time is on the clock.

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        My biggest qualm with switching to proxmox is how painful it is to convert VMs. We have some VMs with multiple TBs of storage.

        In order to move you have to install the drivers first, shut down the VM, copy the files over (slowly), convert the VM (takes forever even on a 6 drive NVME raid array), before creating a new VM with matching settings then booting and it finally will work. And if you forgot the drivers then you have to find a storage controller that works, boot up, install the driver, then shut down and change the settings.

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          well that’s gonna be a beast you face anyway - it’d also happen if you had to implement your worst case DRP.

          I’m not saying it’s gonna be hassle free, but uh, you’re migrating your infrastructure. It’s gonna be a big job.

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            VMware makes it easy. You can live migrate a physical (or virtual) machine to VMware. Then just shut down the physical machine and turn on the VM. But apparently nothing like this exists for proxmox.

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          You can skip the disk convert step and mount the vmdk files directly. Then after bootup you can use the move disk feature to live convert the disk type.

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      XCP-ng is a good alternative. ProxMox is good for home labs.

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        I tend to draw the line around the 500 VMs mark and whether you use hyper-converged hardware. Above 500 VMs you are likely to be using dedicated storage, where XCP-ng will scale more easily.

        Proxmox makes hyper-converged management simpler than XCP-ng and can handle more complex networking setups out of the box.

        But there is a pretty large overlap between their capabilities.

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    I used to wonder what specific things would drive someone to shoot up their workplace. Nowdays, it’s clear to me that people like Hock Tan are the reason.

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      Dude. No joke. I’ve been through a couple mergers at different companies. First time we had active shooter training a couple weeks before the announcement. I didn’t make the connection at first.

      Fast forward a few years. I’m at a different company. HR announces active shooter training. A month later we get told about a buy out.

      Fast forward even more. HR announces active shooter training. I tell all my colleagues get resumes ready. They thought I was nuts. Sure as shit a month after training CEO says he’s selling us off cause he wants to retire.

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        Can active shooter training consist of giving the shooter directions on where the CEO and board is currently located?

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        Can active shooter training consist of giving the shooter directions on where the CEO and board is currently located?

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        Can active shooter training consist of giving the shooter directions on where the CEO and board is currently located?

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    ”Collaboration is important and a key part of sustaining a culture with your peers, with your colleagues,” he said.”

    ”You might be able to execute your work on time and to standard in a remote environment, but what about your colleagues?,” wrote Jake Wood, CEO of software company Groundswell, on LinkedIn this summer. “Absent your presence, leadership, mentorship—can they thrive?”

    Do they think that no one working remote talks to each other? Obviously they don’t actually think this, and this is all just a means to exert more control over their employees. I sure hope no one is falling for these “reasons” these CEOs keep spouting.

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    I’ve got a 20 mile commute and that’s basically at the edge of what I’d be willing to do on a daily basis at this point. Sure 50 miles is fine once a week or whatever, but fuck if I’m putting in anything more than 39.9999999 hours if you’re expecting me to spend 2+ hours commuting every day (and 2 hours is basically assuming best case highway all the way scenario to come up with it only being 2 hours)!

    I know this is the norm for a lot of people, but I’d have to be very desperate to do it again and people that were 100% WFH or worse yet hired to be WFH aren’t going to be willing to do it for long.

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    So their plan was to buy the name and get rid of employees? Looks expensive for that.

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    What a douche, lay off a bunch of employees, then put the screws to the remaining ones.

    I can’t wait for tech workers to unionize and start putting these scumbags in their place.