• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Just a reminder that this isn’t caused by lack of nurses. This is caused by a lack of salary, and a lack of support staff being hired.

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      1 year ago

      Don’t forget being treated like absolute shit by people who think browsing YouTube on the toilet is “doing research”.

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        1 year ago

        Knew some nurses that did 3 12s and then had 4 days off. Seems like it could be nice on one hand.

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          My neighbor works in the NICU. She does 3 12s. She then does two more for the overtime pay. I don’t think she’s the exception anymore.

          It’s horrible to watch someone burnout just to support their family…

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            This is me!

            The 3 on, 4 days off, 4 days on, 3 days off cycle of 12 hour shifts is what I do as in-home health care for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities!

            And as a manager, I absolutely do get stuffed into covering 5 or more days. During the pandemic I was doing front half days (Sunday Monday Tuesday) back half nights (Wednesday Thursday Friday). And it’s hell!

            They increased our pay to $15 an hour in my state as an emergency order so we could finally get some staff, but it’s impossible to get enough people and don’t even talk to me about quality…

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          but you’ll get called-in for mandatory ot on day one off of four; which then turns into a back-to-back. then for good measure, your last day off will be cut short as you’re called-in early.

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        12 hour shifts aren’t all that terrible, as long as you actually get off on time and are paid well for working the appropriate amount of time (whether that’s 3/4/4/3 or 5/2/2/5, or 2/2/3/2/2/3, or any other schedule that gets you close to the standard hours per week). I’ve done 12s for about a decade, and haven’t had any problems with it aside from occasionally running into schedule issues because it’s hard to predict what day you’ll be working/off without calculating which week of the pay period it is.

        It all returns to how much work you have to do in those 12 hours. Having even a few minutes of downtime repeatedly throughout a shift has been going the way of the dodo, and that’s going back to the original point of poor pay and fewer people to do everything needed.

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      a friend used to be a nurse. still works in health care, but in admin instead. stable (and flexible) hours, better pay, and has been able to work from home since before wfh became a hotbed topic (several years before covid, due to space issues at the facility at the time).

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      It’s interesting because in terms of the amount of school/time you need to invest, nursing is a pretty good job. You can become an LPN in less time than it takes to get an Associate’s and then make $50k starting out. RNs can get 70-80k starting out, although some states have raised educational requirements so that you need a Bachelor’s.

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        You can make that much but in places they don’t. I worked as a radiology aide and an OR aide at a local hospital when I was in college, thought about pursuing nursing as both of my parents are nurses. Two years there and one year of pre nursing in college and I thought “why am I going into this career? I get treated like crap by those above me and the patients, I get no support from my supervisors, I come home every day tired and complaining about work, and the stuff I bitch about is stuff my dad says has been happening since the hospital opened in the 70s” I got a degree in history and now I work as a PM for a contracting company that specializes in historic preservation, making more than I ever would as a nurse and I go to work and go home everyday in a pretty good mood.

        If everyone working in the hospital wasn’t being treated like shit then I probably would be a nurse today but my time at the hospital was a huge eye opener.

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      Well, people keep voting for political candidates who want to change nothing…so…