Considering they were clearly intending to hit military and police targets and that the rave and kibbutz confrontations happened because they got stuck there in a firefight. And that at least half of the casualties ended up being military or police (a legitimate target under international law). I’d say so, yes. It’s a heck of a better kill ratio than the IDF has, that’s for sure.
Yes, lie to justify the terrorist attack why dont you.
Have you not seen a single video from that day? They gunned down civilians running away screaming, they went house to house in the Kibutz and shot or kidnapped anyone they found, literally on camera.
Is it really a strawman? The “resistance” were the ones who did October 7th, and the ones who shot up the music festival.
I don’t think there’s any way to defend a group that does that, other than trying to argue it was somehow justified.
So what about before Oct 7th what about the hundreds of dead Palestinians in the last year in the West Bank? What about the 2014 massacres in Gaza? 2006? Is that also because of Oct 7th?
One side is a genocidal apartheid state. The other is the recipient of that. And you, a very smart person, think it’s ok to both side this issue and criticise oppressed people’s meager means of resistance. That makes you an apartheid apologist. You’re the same type of person who called Mandela a terrorist, but probably praises him now. You’re on the wrong side of history.
You sound like someone who would have told the Jews in the Warsaw ghettos that you can’t agree with their methods when they took up arms and that because they did it’s reasonable for the Nazis to eradicate them.
Yeah the Israelis are demolishing cities and killing innocents.
Hummus attacked innocents and kidnapped CHILDREN.
They could have turned around and released them the next day and said something like “ They got dragged along in the moment, we recognize that these children are innocent and would like to return them because we are fighting back against oppression, not children.” and I personally would have a shit ton more respect, they should have gave back the old people too, but at least they are adults.
Israel’s response and previous action one are without justification, so is kidnapping toddlers.
Do those justify what Hamas did on October 7th?
It’s possible to criticize both sides when both sides have been repeatedly committing atrocities on each other since 1948.
I believe that without one of the sides stopping and saying they’re done and want peace, and the other side being forced to not capitalize on that situation by the international community, that both sides will constantly feel justified in their violence on eachothers civilians.
That’s feels a lot like collective punishment but just reversed on the original oppressor. That’s not creating any more justice, just reversing the roles in a still oppressive system.
Is that what October 7th was? Was that really an aggressive music festival?
Considering they were clearly intending to hit military and police targets and that the rave and kibbutz confrontations happened because they got stuck there in a firefight. And that at least half of the casualties ended up being military or police (a legitimate target under international law). I’d say so, yes. It’s a heck of a better kill ratio than the IDF has, that’s for sure.
I don’t give a shit what they intended to do.
They killed innocents, they aren’t the good guys either
Yes, lie to justify the terrorist attack why dont you.
Have you not seen a single video from that day? They gunned down civilians running away screaming, they went house to house in the Kibutz and shot or kidnapped anyone they found, literally on camera.
The strawman argument has arrived.
Is it really a strawman? The “resistance” were the ones who did October 7th, and the ones who shot up the music festival. I don’t think there’s any way to defend a group that does that, other than trying to argue it was somehow justified.
So what about before Oct 7th what about the hundreds of dead Palestinians in the last year in the West Bank? What about the 2014 massacres in Gaza? 2006? Is that also because of Oct 7th?
That doesn’t make killing or kidnapping innocents right.
Both sides of this are bad people and the only good ones are the innocents caught in the middle
One side is a genocidal apartheid state. The other is the recipient of that. And you, a very smart person, think it’s ok to both side this issue and criticise oppressed people’s meager means of resistance. That makes you an apartheid apologist. You’re the same type of person who called Mandela a terrorist, but probably praises him now. You’re on the wrong side of history.
Am I? I feel safe just going with fuck hummus and fuck Israel.
Good people don’t attack music festivals and kill innocents that have nothing to do with it.
Good people also don’t demolish cities and kill innocents that have nothing to do with the fight.
Only one group is demolishing cities here.
You sound like someone who would have told the Jews in the Warsaw ghettos that you can’t agree with their methods when they took up arms and that because they did it’s reasonable for the Nazis to eradicate them.
Yeah the Israelis are demolishing cities and killing innocents.
Hummus attacked innocents and kidnapped CHILDREN.
They could have turned around and released them the next day and said something like “ They got dragged along in the moment, we recognize that these children are innocent and would like to return them because we are fighting back against oppression, not children.” and I personally would have a shit ton more respect, they should have gave back the old people too, but at least they are adults.
Israel’s response and previous action one are without justification, so is kidnapping toddlers.
So yeah, both are bad.
Get lost, Oct 7th apologist
Do those justify what Hamas did on October 7th? It’s possible to criticize both sides when both sides have been repeatedly committing atrocities on each other since 1948.
I believe that without one of the sides stopping and saying they’re done and want peace, and the other side being forced to not capitalize on that situation by the international community, that both sides will constantly feel justified in their violence on eachothers civilians.
If you rave on contested ground during your genocide, you don’t get to complain when the prisoners break the locks.
So Germans wouldn’t of been able to say anything had Abba Kovner and Nakam succeeded?
That’s feels a lot like collective punishment but just reversed on the original oppressor. That’s not creating any more justice, just reversing the roles in a still oppressive system.
Now defend the children they kidnapped.
Explain to me why children should be involved.
Because Israel did it is not a valid reason, they are kids.