The video shows Michael Yon making false claims regarding so-called “terrorists coming across the border being funded by Jewish money.” Yon was speaking at a “Take Back Our Border” convoy in Texas.
In the video posted on X, formerly Twitter, the man can be heard claiming that HIAS, a global Jewish nonprofit that works to protect refugees, is responsible for funding terrorists coming to America.
How does a group “descend” to a position they never left. That’s like saying these conservative shitstains “descended” into racism and xenophobia. They are conservatives FFS!
I think it’s funny how the starting point was they’re christian nationalist secessionist traitors but OP’s red line is anti-semitism.
It’s pretty common to see in the Jewish culture. They generally really don’t give a shit about anything outside their bubble but when something happens to them they demand they world drops everything to help them or otherwise you’re a piece of shit.
I see where you’re coming from, but in the case of right wing conspiracy theories, “the Joos are secretly controlling the world!” is a common topic of conversation.
Yeah, not saying that isn’t true. These conspiracy kooks are wild. I just grew up in a Jewish community, so being force fed propaganda from the time I was a child got kind of exhausting. Especially when I got older and started to see through it so I think I have more of an averse reaction to it than most people would.
Descends into?
Are you sure they weren’t there all along?
Indeed. We need a new version of Godwin’s law. Something like
The odds of xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, or antisemitism appearing in a conversation is directly proportional to the number of conservatives participating in that conversation.
Hence forth this will be known as “Billiams law”
Godwin’s law was always more harm than good. Basically stating that despite a long history with fascism, it was inappropriate to compare Republicans to fascists/Nazis. Sure not everyone who votes Republican is a fascist. They’re just okay with fascists. But if you are a fascist or modern Nazi, if you vote you vote Republican and always have.
What you’re putting forward is much more like a razor anyway. See Occam’s or Hanlon’s.
…my dude, the only people who are okay with fascists are other fascists. Like, that’s not even a debatable question.
Godwin didn’t say it wasn’t okay to call Republicans Nazis, he warned that one shouldn’t make such comparisons lightly because it risks desensitizing everyone to the atrocities the Nazis committed and numbs the impact being called a Nazi should have. And to an extent he’s still correct, as much of the Republican party thinks the issue with Nazism is branding (The Boys summed it up perfectly when Stormfront said "People love what I have to say, they just don’t like the word ‘Nazi’ ".)
He also said it’s perfectly fine comparing Trump to Hitler.
I agree with you. Though perhaps I was being too subtle. Yes, if you are okay with fascists and fascism then you are one of them. The whole point was that it isn’t better to support it than it is to outright claim to be it.
As the proverb says, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions. That may have been what Godwin intended. But that wasn’t the result. The result was we were loathe to even discuss the Republican party’s enduring fascism problems In general. Especially in recent times. Because someone would shout out “Godwin’s law!” as a discussion-ending cliche. Simply because Republicans hadn’t slaughtered millions recently.
We lost all focus on how it starts, over defference with how it ended. Leaving many many people to wonder where the fascism that has existed for most of the last 100 years suddenly came from.
The only part that surprises me about this is that the convoy isn’t called “Take Back Are Country.”
Idk about you guys but I hate Nazis more than I hate illegal immigrants.
Hopefully their power grid can keep up this winter.
Don’t need to hate anyone tho.
except nazis. we need to hate them.
Hating a group because they hate?
Hate is damaging your character.
So should we accept them? Be tolérant of their intolerance?
Punish by law, prohibit groups that fulfill the terms of extremist, teach to prevent, etc. Hate against hate never worked.
One thing a lot of countries get wrong is integration of immigrants.
I hate Nazis
“Especially Illinois Nazis”
~“Joliet” Jake Blues
Uh oh, quiet part aloud.
Jesus fuck I’ll never understand these people. So now the Jews are sending Mexicans? Do they hear themselves when they speak? How incredibly fucking stupid that sounds?
My uncle-in-law is convinced that the CCP is sending spies and sleeper agents in droves across the border. There’s just no way to reason with this level of delusion.
CPC
Maybe it’s the Mexicans who are sending their jews?
Now that’s a shama llama ding dong level plot twist
Anti-immigration hysteria? Check. Anti-semitic conspiracies? Check. Now all they is some anti-black dog whistles to hit the trifecta. The odds are looking pretty good.
There must have been at least one confederate flag at this shindig.
I will be fucking shocked if there is only one, hell I’d be shocked if it was under 10
It’s like a horrible game of Bigot Bingo
When does free speech descend into incitement?
I’m shocked
Oh this is good.
Maybe we’ll see some of that censorship put to good use, now.
These people don’t know whether to hate or love Jews depending on what their talking heads told them that morning
They generally hate Jews unless Fox News tells them that Arabs are scarier.
When it’s not involving Arabs, then Jews are scarier.
I don’t quite understand the hierarchy of fear that’s so present in these communities though, but I assume there’s sub gradations within the groups like an Israeli Jew isn’t as bad as a wall street Jew and a wall street Jew is scarier than a Mexican but not a taxi driver?
I’m probably not racist enough to grasp the nuances of their thinking but I’m among the scary people so I try to catalogue where I am in the moment on the hate scale LoL. Rising the ranks quickly is my current experience…
Oh, what? No way.
In a separate video of the same event posted by Ryan Matta, he also claims that Hamas and Hezbollah “are coming across” the U.S. border. “Venezuela is filled with Hezbollah,” he said. “Our borders are wide open, it’s our government that’s doing it.” Yon reposted the video with the caption “Allahu Akbar!”
So is it Jews or Hamas/Hezbollah?
They can’t even keep their shit straight that they are telling people. 🤦🏻♂️
They probably don’t know the difference. They’re from the same place after all LoL. These people aren’t smart.
I’m getting worried.
I planned a vacation to TX for my birthday in early April, because it happens to coincide with the eclipse, and Dallas will be one of the best places to view it from.
So, since I had a lot of points to splurge on, I extended the vacation a bit and we’re going to fly into Houston, hang there for a bit, then spend my birthday weekend in Austin, then Dallas for the eclipse, and back down to Houston to fly home.
Lots of stuff I want to do in each city, and I know the cities are generally lean a bit more liberal, but I’m getting more concerned each day about actually spending my birthday and a monumental celestial event inside an actual civil war.
You’ll be fine. The average Texan isn’t even aware of this stupid shit and the cities you listed are way more left-leaning than a small town in whatever state you’re from.
This is a few hundred idiots in a state with a population of 30 million people. I saw more people at Costco yesterday.
Some articles have misrepresented it as 1,000 people, but that was a concert in Dripping Springs, a small town outside of Austin (not the border) with Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin. 1,000 people turning out for a musician with Top 40 hits is actually a very poor turnout for being near a city with 1,000,000 people.
This is all just media hype. Edit to add: And politician hype. I’m not sure which one I’m angrier at. They both suck for trying to “make fetch happen.”
Yet this is the same party attacking the left for being antisemitic, and the media never contextualizes their attacks with things like this or their Jewish space laser actual antisemitism.
Socialists have an antisemitism problem because of the whole Wealthy Capitalist Jew stereotype. They hate wealthy people, they hate capitalists, so on an emotional level they have predisposition towards hating Jews. Not enough to kill Jews, but just enough to look the other way when someone else is killing Jews.
The right wing has an antisemitism problem because of religious bigotry.
This common hatred allows for strange coalitions to form between fascists and socialists. ie. National Socialism.
Of course socialists tend to be so certain of their ideological superiority they feel like they can win over the fascists in time. But then there’s a night of the long knives and guess who are the ones holding the knives?
Socialist spend so much time debating the minutia of ideology they become ignorant of emotional manipulation and how power dynamics work. This makes them susceptible to being duped into joining fascist causes and when they’re no longer useful to the fascists, they’re promptly disposed of.
Issue with your first premise about Socialism… I have never heard leftist and Socialist circles take specific issue with Jewish people. Quite frankly the stereotype of the rich Jewish person is tied into the idea of Usury being a sin in Christianity but not the Jewish faith… But when was the last time you heard of the church full of fire and brimstone proclaim participating in the stock market is a sin? Answer is, you don’t. Because it doesn’t happen anymore. As dogma goes it was subtly retired from popular consciousness over a lengthy process about 300 years ago. The concept of “the Rich Jew” being a distinct issue for having any kind of advantage over anybody else is just the lingering unexamined myth of an era where any loan made where interest was charged had limited sources. There is no bogeyman money lender anymore when secular short term loan businesses dot the landscape.
The factor the main branches of Socialism all agree on is that the super rich should be taxed and measures made to put checks on monopolies. The faith of the people in those positions has zero relevance to that discussion. The common denominator is the amount of money made and the social ills that are perpetuated when that wealth is allowed to be unambiguously hoarded. Assuming that targeting the rich unfairly targets the Jewish people is buying into the antisemitic stereotype that paints them as the only rich predatory bogeymen of consequence.
What Conservatives often don’t realize about hate speech is that there are protected and unprotected grounds. Israel is a political construct, a country. Becoming mega rich through exploitation is a choice anyone can make. Neither of these things are beyond criticism because they are both institutions independant of the body of religion. You have Jewish people who hate what the body politic of Israel is doing and you have rich exploitative people who are not Jewish.
The near complete lack of understanding of the actual hard boundries of what counts as hate speech versus legitimate targets of criticism leave a lot of moderates in your position where they are out to sea and unable to pick hate speech properly out of the dialogue and are subject to false equivency propaganda that there’s hypocrisy when there’s not. In rhetoric there are solid rules about what counts and until you learn them you are sailing without a compass or stars.
