My my, the display of privilege and ignorance. Especially predictable from an ML domain.

Leninists 100% unironically do. Though I’m sure they’ll try to convince you that it’s not a genocide somehow. Despite supporting it.

Ole Winnie Xi Poo got his fee fees hurt. It was always that or they were terrified of people protesting and not knowing who to jail or kill because of the masks.

The album it’s off of is a lot of fun. Though extremely hard to find these days. You might be able to look up the tracklist and find most of them floating around on YouTube somewhere. But I looked at their listing for the album proper and I think they had maybe one out of 13 tracks from the album.

Funny that you hypocritically whine about strawman when you start out with one. It is your MO though.

Understanding “where they are”, doesn’t make their actions any more logical or less self-harming. And implying that someone who calls their actions illogical and self-harming doesn’t know where they are coming from. Well if that’s your best argument, and it is. It’s pretty laughable.

Different genera covers are always a fun rabbit hole to go down. One of my go to favorites are psychobilly covers of anything.

Also to add to your cover collection.

Mary Lou Lord and Semisonic - sugar sugar

The logical thing to do then. Well as logical as that situation gets, is just to not vote. Punishing one politician by voting for another that’s worse on every policy. Sends mixed to no message at all. And is just irrational self injuring flailing. But humans are very skilled at being irrational.

Yep, if someone is into spanking. More power to them. But sexually harassing others by projecting your sexual fetishes on to them. That’s not acceptable.

If Tucker really wants to be cuckolded that way. He has the money to pay for it and better venues with willing partners to find it in. That isn’t American public politics.

Of course not. I literally complimented you on being genuine. And warned you about the hypocrisy of pointing out the same for other groups on that instance. Judging from your reaction something about one or both of those offended you.

Sure Stalin slaughtered tens of thousands of ethnic polish and helped WWII Germany take Poland. That’s on the older side of things. Putin has slaughtered nearly 10M Ukrainians last I saw. Lots of ML, perhaps and hopefully not you, defend Putin in this. Xi and the vanguard party in China are similarly imprisoning and slaughtering any that do not conform to their prescribed monoculture. Which again far too many Marxist leninists support. Though hopefully not you hopefully you’re being genuine. But from your responses so far I do question that.

What, not being a hypocrite? If you criticize one. You should criticize the other. I agree the US and Harris shouldn’t support and enable genocide. Neither should ML. Nothing about it is really clever. But if you think it is I think that says more about you than anyone else.

Rare to see someone on an ML domain speak out against Stalin and more modern genociders like Xi. I’m with ya, but you should know, your instances admins like to ban for such things. Be careful.

If it wasn’t for double standards they wouldn’t have any

So how do you explain things like marriage equality and civil rights. I’m not going to claim it counters all the negative things economic liberals do. But it certainly makes the claim muddy and specious.

There is no 2 party system either. Implying the system relies on parties. Outlaw both Republicans and Democrats tomorrow and 2 other groups will fill the void. It’s a first passed the post voting system, weighted for bigots with the electoral college. The wealthy will buyout interest in whatever parties arise. Hell many of them fund 3rd party campaigns now to keep opposition divided. And they will keep doing it as long as we stay divided. Because that’s why there has been little to no change. Nothing to do with parties, everything to do with lack of solidarity.

The fascists won’t go away when trump does. They were there long before trump. Plotting a Hitler style fascist overthrow of FDRin the 1930s even as Hitler stomped around Europe. Before trump was even born. And many of those implicated suffered no personal repercussions after being outed. The son and grandson of one going on to become modern Republican war starting presidents.

That is just trolling with home court advantage. They put out the honeypot and get to argue on their home turf for the most part

That’s a REAL stretch. I’m not saying they aren’t fucking annoying. They’re really, FUCKING, annoying. But being annoying doesn’t imply trolling. I’ve met people who’s basic speaking tones and patterns annoyed me. But it was less something they did intentionally and more a malfunction of who they were. And in this case, despite monk making a spectacle of themselves. People sought them out far more than monk intruded elsewhere.

I won’t miss them. But some of the behavior has definitely been obsessive and bullying towards them. Regardless of their actions or what you think of them personally. Maybe you like that fact. Maybe you don’t. For me personally though it feels like pretty shitty behavior all around and no one to really root for. When I stopped engaging with them. I stopped having issues with them. They didn’t follow. Didn’t harass others the way they were harassed. That’s not justifying or defending their behavior. Whatever lessons they learned they learned the wrong fucking thing. There’s no question about that.

That’s just it though. In a weird sort of way they don’t tend to initiate it. Look at it closer. Try to find an instance of them commenting on a post to community that wasn’t their own. Or did not mention them in some way. It’s oddly rare as f***.

If their whole intent was to feed off metallic replies. Why would they create and moderate many many different communities to which they post some of the same s*** and get very little response? Often still getting ratioed on what little response they do get. That’s a lot of extra work for not very much troll food.

If you choose to Define them as a troll. You still have to admit they’re one of the easiest trolls in history to avoid. Which should make you question the label. The behavior is much too erratic and unpredictable for something like a simple troll. Much more indicative of something like mental illness and a bad response to being bullied

I already came to that conclusion with you two posts ago. If you actually care. Perhaps you should go back and look at what you said. The tone with which you said it. And try to understand. You get what you give. And to be clear I don’t say this with a patronizing tone. It’s something I have to absolutely have to watch myself on as well.

Absolutely. I have no love for monk. I’ve left communities they were involved with. Generally downvote them on sight. But a lot of the people screaming “troll” the loudest. Are easily as guilty of such behavior as the accused. I don’t see Monk going to others threads regularly seeking attention that way. I generally only see them post on their own posts, or replies to posts they got. And when they post to the politics community for instance. Things that generally would be popular with most there. Downvoted to oblivion and that’s that.

Only after you define a patronizing. And explain why you’ve chosen to ignore what was said. I literally said it’s taken on trollish tone recently. But I don’t believe it’s their actual MO. To be clear I’m not arguing that they should not be banned or trying to defend them. I honestly think there’s much more to suggest mental illness going on there than gleeful trolling. But I see that it’s wildly important for you personally to only see them definitely as a troll. Despite the fact that being undaunted and a bit spammy is the biggest accusation that you have. I honestly am getting much more trollish vibe from you than I have ever gotten from monk all the times I disagreed with them and pointed it out. Which to be clear I’ve largely stopped engaging with them at this point because of the uselessness.

That’s a much more recent turn. Not that long ago they were asking why they were getting such negative engagement. I think they decided to cling to ideology and take the negativity as an affirmation of their position. Make no mistake, I’m not asking for them not to be banned or anything. I have 100% left community that they’ve been apart of. And will not lament their absence. I don’t think it’s clear trolling.