Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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    11 months ago

    “There’s too much identity tied up in one’s work, so that is lost [after retirement]. And then there’s the cultural script of what maleness means in in our culture, so men just won’t admit or won’t receive care for depression because of that sense that it’s somehow not what a man does.”

    What use is a cog that can’t cog anymore? Caring for elders is not built into our value system and not protected by our economic system.

    Hell, it may be the only way to retire in a few more years.

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      What use is a cog that can’t cog anymore? Caring for elders is not built into our value system and not protected by our economic system.

      Also, what good is “care for depression” when the causes of depression aren’t a “chemical imbalance” but having to live in a partriarchal capitalist society that only values men for what they can provide?

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        What if constantly calling a system that fails men “the patriarchy” was part of the problem?

        What if calling a system that blames all men for a system that benefits a tiny elite was a large reason why so many men are totally dead disenfranchised with the concept? If there was even a one percent chance that was true - would you stop it doing it?

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          What would you suggest instead? The “kyriarchy”? The “military-industrial-congressional complex”? How about getting fisted by the invisible hand of the market?

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            Why would I have to choose a name that specifically targets one demographic?

            When are the Internet revolutionaries going to realise that choosing solutions that deliberately create division will… Wait for it… Create division.

            How are you going to solve problems when you’re literally motivating people to resist you?

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    11 months ago

    Ban guns that will fix the mental health problem…

    Sarcasm for those unable to spot click bait. Might as well have titled the story “Death the leading cause of suicide among elderly men”…

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      11 months ago

      Why does the US mentality always revolve around a single cause?

      It’s clear that the availability of an instantaneous way to end your life on a whim with zero effort and zero percieved pain is going to facilitate a lot of suicides. No, banning it wont stop suicide, but it would absolutely reduce them. To suggest otherwise is simply statistically disingenuous, regardless of how much you have the right to bear them or not.

      But if guns are part of the US identity and culture then so be it, but that means spending on mental health outcomes and prevention need to dramatically increase.

      It’s a cost either way, whichever side of the gun debate you are on

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        If you understand suicide even a little bit you would know men do not fuck about when it comes to suicide. There is little in between, no cry’s for help they are rare. guns are a tool to achieve the outcome and the statistics will never change.

        So this click bait title is just stupid anti-gun garbage. Men will ALWAYS be the higher suicide rate no matter what.

        Up next water is wet.

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          Toxic masculinity is what you’re describing. It’s very prevalent in the US. Guns are part of that toxic male culture.

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          11 months ago

          If you understood even a little bit about suicide you would understand that sucidial ideation proceeds action, and ideation involves stimulus from the immediate locale.