Yeah, my country, Germany, historically doesn’t even have much choice but to support Israel. Protests in favour of Palestine are banned in various cities, we will be sending arms to Israel. Our media are drumming that now is not the time to remind Israel of human rights and that that the democracy would surely work it out afterwards.
Jews should feel safe in Germany. We should condemn Hamas. But there is no need to cheer on the extermination of non-Hamas Palestinians in Gaza at the same time.
Between Germany and the UK, we probably bear more blame for what’s going on than practically everybody except Israel’s government and Hamas themselves.
But what can you do? I don’t have any say in what my current government does, let alone one elected 40 years before I was born…
Oh, when it comes to the specific conflict zone, yeah. That’s a very British cross to bear.
I hope you get a reasonable government soon. It’s so sad how the UK currently looks, the government is too busy being proud of the past to make anything for people to be proud about in the present.
We have to have a general election by 28th January 2025, and the way the polling figures are looking, I wouldn’t expect them to call an election much earlier than that.
They’re out and they know it. Can’t wait. Also not expecting much in the way of immediate change, but hey, at least no more Tories. Until we forget and let them back in again.
Best of luck, I am hoping every day that Starmer isn’t doing something silly. Like eating breat. Which is apparently deadly in British politics opposed to riding the country into shit, which is a-ok.
Our media are drumming that now is not the time to remind Israel of human rights and that that the democracy would surely work it out afterwards.
Everything less than a clear win against Hamas will be seen as a sign of weakness by many states in the Middle East.
We should condemn Hamas.
Hamas IS being condemned, rightfully so.
But there is no need to cheer on the extermination of non-Hamas Palestinians in Gaza at the same time.
I have seen no German or International Media that cheers on the killing of Palestinian civilians. None.
There will be deaths of civilians because they are close to Hamas Targets though. This is unfortunately the reality of war - but those deaths are on Hamas.
There will be deaths of civilians because they are close to Hamas Targets though. This is unfortunately the reality of war - but those deaths are on Hamas.
This is such a strange conclusion for me. It rests on the assumption that the IDF never targets civilians on purpose. We know, from documented evidence and 75 years of history, that that is not the case and that Israel never, ever, ever answers to any of the human rights violations it has brought into the world.
Sorry to burst this bubble but the reason there are civilian deaths is because Israel dehumanized Palestinians long ago so killing them now is okay.
This is unfortunately the reality of war - but those deaths are on Hamas.
So the deaths caused by Hamas are on Hamas, and also the ones caused by Israel are on Hamas? Yeah, hold my beer while I totally absolve Israel of any blame despite its track record of war crimes..
I have a question for you: do Palestinians deserve self-determination?
I know. Do you understand why I wrote how I wrote it?
To break it down for you: “This thing that’s right. This people that’s right. But also this.”
It’s to let you see these three things on a smiliar level.
Now, then. You also misundstood the cheering part as literal. It is to be taken as encoragement. Our politicians support all of Israel’s actions as defense, that includes cutting off electricity, fuel and water, bombing whole blocks which killed among many innocent palestinians UN workers, and the recent announcement for hundreds of thousands of people to relocated within 24 hours.
Yeah, my country, Germany, historically doesn’t even have much choice but to support Israel. Protests in favour of Palestine are banned in various cities, we will be sending arms to Israel. Our media are drumming that now is not the time to remind Israel of human rights and that that the democracy would surely work it out afterwards.
Jews should feel safe in Germany. We should condemn Hamas. But there is no need to cheer on the extermination of non-Hamas Palestinians in Gaza at the same time.
Between Germany and the UK, we probably bear more blame for what’s going on than practically everybody except Israel’s government and Hamas themselves.
But what can you do? I don’t have any say in what my current government does, let alone one elected 40 years before I was born…
Oh, when it comes to the specific conflict zone, yeah. That’s a very British cross to bear.
I hope you get a reasonable government soon. It’s so sad how the UK currently looks, the government is too busy being proud of the past to make anything for people to be proud about in the present.
We have to have a general election by 28th January 2025, and the way the polling figures are looking, I wouldn’t expect them to call an election much earlier than that.
They’re out and they know it. Can’t wait. Also not expecting much in the way of immediate change, but hey, at least no more Tories. Until we forget and let them back in again.
Best of luck, I am hoping every day that Starmer isn’t doing something silly. Like eating breat. Which is apparently deadly in British politics opposed to riding the country into shit, which is a-ok.
Everything less than a clear win against Hamas will be seen as a sign of weakness by many states in the Middle East.
Hamas IS being condemned, rightfully so.
I have seen no German or International Media that cheers on the killing of Palestinian civilians. None.
There will be deaths of civilians because they are close to Hamas Targets though. This is unfortunately the reality of war - but those deaths are on Hamas.
This is such a strange conclusion for me. It rests on the assumption that the IDF never targets civilians on purpose. We know, from documented evidence and 75 years of history, that that is not the case and that Israel never, ever, ever answers to any of the human rights violations it has brought into the world.
Sorry to burst this bubble but the reason there are civilian deaths is because Israel dehumanized Palestinians long ago so killing them now is okay.
So the deaths caused by Hamas are on Hamas, and also the ones caused by Israel are on Hamas? Yeah, hold my beer while I totally absolve Israel of any blame despite its track record of war crimes..
I have a question for you: do Palestinians deserve self-determination?
I know. Do you understand why I wrote how I wrote it?
To break it down for you: “This thing that’s right. This people that’s right. But also this.”
It’s to let you see these three things on a smiliar level.
Now, then. You also misundstood the cheering part as literal. It is to be taken as encoragement. Our politicians support all of Israel’s actions as defense, that includes cutting off electricity, fuel and water, bombing whole blocks which killed among many innocent palestinians UN workers, and the recent announcement for hundreds of thousands of people to relocated within 24 hours.
Just to correct that, one million people are told to evacuate. This is the same amount of people living in all of Stockholm.