• 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    If I was buying something, literally anything, and the people I am buying from make me sign a thing that said I couldn’t sell the thing I am buying for X period of time after buying it, that would be a major red flag to me that perhaps this product is actually a huge piece of shit because they’re already worried I will try to get rid of it within X amount of time.

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            I want a 2008 Miata. A 4 cylinder manual with a couple hundred horsepower that doesn’t weigh very much and has a suspension someone thought about for a little while and a sticker price of $25 grand, and it’ll probably make better gas mileage than the old Buick Century I drive to the store today just on weight alone.

            Like, if you said “2008 Miata, or a Pigani Zonda. Choose one and it’s yours for $25,000, but the terms are you have to own and drive it you can’t just sell it” I’m going for the Mazda.

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                …i have a 2005 elise, a 2008 NC, and a 2017 ND: i try not to be a dick, but my wife says i drive like one…

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                  That sounds like a wonderful collection.

                  How are they? I’m guessing they aren’t your daily driver?

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                Pretty easy and cheap to maintain for the most part, just don’t damage the body cuz that’s where it gets expensive and takes forever to replace, for example, the entire front half which is one piece.

                Had one for two years. LOVED it. Highly recommend, tho a used Cayman may be a more practical and less worrisome alternative

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              Miata is extremely good taste. And getting parts for them seemingly will never be a challenge.

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        Yeah honestly I wish more products had laws like this. Or, actually, the rule should be you can’t sell it at a higher price within a certain time frame, because that’s a better indicator of scalping.

        I’ve been wanting to buy one of the B580 GPU’s intel released, but as soon as there’s stock it immediately gets bought out and resold on amazon at a 150$ markup. I can’t think of any other rule that would effectively stop this behavior.

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    That last part is so dumb. How on earth do you not realize you are buying into a scam pyramid scheme type thing with something like that in the contract.

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    Bought the car just to get attention and you’re getting the attention. I don’t see the problem. You got exactly what you wanted. It’s a fuck ugly car that’s shit quality. You bought it just because you wanted to be noticed. Well, play dumb games, win dumb prizes.

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    Sorry, no sympathy. I have some sympathy for the Tesla owners who bought theirs years ago before Musk went completely mask off. But Musk has been an overt Nazi since the first cybertruck was released. Do you know what you call an Apartheid baby that platforms and massively promotes Nazis in the name of “free speech” while censoring other voices (see ‘cis’ as a slur). You call them a Nazi. Musk has been dealing in overt racism, malignant transphobia, and eugenics for years now. If you simply didn’t care about this, and still gave that many $100k of your money? I’m sorry, but you just gave $100k to a man you knew was a Nazi. You’re a literal Nazi sympathizer. Or, at best, you’re a person who cares so little about fighting Nazis that you will willingly give the nation’s most prominent Nazi a hundred grand.

    So yes, it is absolutely is fair to judge people who bought a cybertruck. They’re Nazi sympathizers. I don’t know if I would personally engage in such vandalism. But if I was on a jury with such a case before me, I would certainly be practicing jury nullification. Some paint or flat tires is a fraction of what a car like that deserves. That thing should be burned to ashes. That is what should really be done to Nazi symbols like the cybertruck. Here in 2025, if you are driving a cybertruck. There is no way for you to have that vehicle without having every chance in the world to see buying it directly supports Nazis. Every cybertruck is already a rolling swastika.

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    Oh man I was a lil thirsty today, thanks for that cup of Nazi tears. Delicious. Hit the spot. Chef’s kiss.

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    Elmo was visibly A Problem well before launching this drug-fueled mockery of engineering. It sounds silly for like five minutes after learning about it. Then you see one in person and it’s just… eugh. Who buys this shit? Who buys this shit in spite of the aggressively public figurehead being a fucking Nazi?

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      Yup. I have pity for owners of Tesla from pre-2018. There were some pretty problematic things before that, but that year, with his violations of SEC orders to not do security fraud, and his heavy projection onto that hero who saved the kids in the cave, is the last time they could have any benefit of the doubt.

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        Also EV options around then were much less. If you just wanted an EV sadan with 250+ miles of range you largely were stuck with a Tesla. And at times they were the cheapest option too.

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    Musk was randomly accusing people of being a pedo YEARS before the cybertruck was released. No sympathy. User error for agreeing to that contract.

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    From a purely legal perspective, I’m curious if the contract would hold up in court, considering there is a concerted campaign of vandalism against the cars.

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    Do I feel bad they bought a shit car with shit terms? No. He should have been smarter.

    Do I feel bad people are targeting his car because of something someone else did? Yes.

    It’s not like he wrapped the car with a bunch of inflammatory imagery like I’ve seen some have. He’s just got his stupid car and people are fucking with it. This doesn’t help crash Tesla. It doesn’t hurt Tesla at all. It’s misdirected.

    Got after Tesla charge stations instead. Go after the dealerships. Go after Elon.

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      It’s not like he wrapped the car with a bunch of inflammatory imagery like I’ve seen some have.

      I would argue that the car itself is inflammatory to anyone who believes he’s a fascist.

      He’s just got his stupid car and people are fucking with it.

      If goebbels had a car company and you bought a car from him, fully knowing he was a Nazi… I would probably say there’s a pretty high chance you are also a Nazi.

      This doesn’t help crash Tesla. It doesn’t hurt Tesla at all. It’s misdirected.

      If your car gets trashed every time you take it out because of the public’s disdain for its CEO, are you going to buy another?

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        If goebbels had a car company and you bought a car from him, fully knowing he was a Nazi… I would probably say there’s a pretty high chance you are also a Nazi.

        I agree. But many of these CTs were sold well before Musk went all Nazi.

        He’s been a weirdo for years, but that’s somewhat understandable when people get a fuck ton of money. Look at John McAfee.

        Yes, trashing Tesla’s makes people not want to buy them. I just think trashing the Tesla infrastructure is better.

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          I agree. But many of these CTs were sold well before Musk went all Nazi.

          Ehh… Maybe valid with other Teslas, but musk has been letting the mask slip way before late 2023.

          I just think trashing the Tesla infrastructure is better.

          Why not both?

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      Please don’t go after the charge stations. Other car brands use them, and Teslas use non-Tesla charging stations as well. It’s kind of a free for all with chargers.

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      The other Tesla models, I get many people bought it for its EV properties, like people don’t wonder about the views of the CEO of general motors, Toyota etc. in their car purchases. The cybertruck it is very clear that one bought in Musk’s specific visions, so it’s fairer game.

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      The cybertruck is an obscenity just from how dangerous it is for pedestrians and how heavy and inefficient it is.

      Add the nazi psychopath who purports to run the company only makes it worse.

      Vandalizing Cybertrucks is actually quite based and awesome.

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          I think we might be able to muster up enough nuance to determine the difference between an inanimate object and a person, right?

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            Aren’t you hurting the person by harming their property?

            I’m asking if we can go after every American since America does shit things? So spray paint their doors and houses, throw paint on their clothes, dump garbage in front of their doors.

            Obviously thats silly because we don’t know if that particular American supports the fascist right running the USA. It’s also silly saying wrecking every Tesla is right.

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              Aren’t you hurting the person by harming their property?

              Lol, no. Property does not have feelings, nor is a person driving a near 6 figure vanity truck going to experience undue financial instability by having their property vandalized.

              I’m asking if we can go after every American since America does shit things?

              Another false equivocation… Did every American choose to be American? Or do you think being born is the same as choosing to empower a fascist?

              Obviously thats silly because we don’t know if that particular American supports the fascist right running the USA.

              No, it’s just a stupid comparison to begin with. Again, the important aspect you continue to ignore is that owning a particular piece of property is a choice, and the people who can afford cyber trucks aren’t going to be financially destroyed by buying a different car. Meaning they choose to perpetuate their choice.

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                Lol, no. Property does not have feelings

                So if I burned your house down, you wouldn’t be hurt by this action?

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                  It’s more like if a billionaires 3rd mansion gets burned down, you’re not really that sorry for them are you? It’s a magnitude of difference as to how it effects someone, and I don’t see any lower middle class people driving cyber trucks.

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                  So you’re just ignoring the rest of the argument…?

                  Again, your claim only contains an iota of weight if you grossly over generalize and disregard nuance.

                  A home is not the same as a luxury vehicle. My home wasn’t built by a neo Nazi, nor does it enrich a neo Nazi. My home hasn’t been turned into a dog whistle for fascist who want to enrich their favorite neo Nazi. You do not become homeless when someone vandalizes your 100k vanity truck…

                  If you for some reason vandalized my house with graffiti…I would simply power wash it. I would not claim that I’ve personally been harmed, because I am not my property.

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          I dont know how you got that message from what I said. Canadian, american, icelandic tesla’s are all fair game. If you’re asking if hurting americans is free game, then you completely misinterpreted what I was saying

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    Yes, because I don’t know anything about them other than they made the mistake of buying a cybertruck. Washable vandalism is fine, but don’t do stuff that requires repairs unless you know the person deserves it.

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    On one hand cybertruck is a completely unique design and is a delorean of its day - a trash car with unmistakable, unique appearance you buy as an investment. You don’t need to be homo for musk to see that this car will jump up in value in 20 years. And people who bought it as an investment are super happy, propably even behind the " vandalize ct movement" while theirs sits in a garage.

    On the other hand even without musk being nazi you are incredebly fucking stupid to buy this terrible car from a terrible company who to this day has not made a single good quality vehicle that is reliable or is built to a standard of the avarage cheap toyota. Or hell, even volkswagen. There were multible chances to cancel your preorder and they still bought it. Even after it was revealed you can’t sell it. This is the chickens coming home to roost and teach you about how to spend your money.

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        If you can slap ev conversion into an od jag, you can slap some new batteries into an old ev, especially since enthusiasts will make the conversion kits available

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          This sounds like a good reason to get one that has already been gutted down to the frame, preserve it and juice it up with modern technology when they day comes.

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    99% of these bozos bought the thing based on identity. Statistically the CT is proving to be one of the worst put together EV’s in automotive history. Silicon Valley and the techbros have been playing supremacy games for 25 years. So what if just now the hammer drops. They played sycophant, and didn’t want to hear the left’s warnings.

    FAFO