This is fake and gay. Literally
Dude is also genderless.
I’m a dude. He’s a dude. She’s a dude. We’re all dudes!
Depends on the context.
“Hey Brian, were you making out with a dude last night!?”
“Haha, no, that was Annie, she’s a chick, she just has short hair.”
Dude(s) and Guy(s) can be gender neutral or male-only. Girl can mean a female child, or it can mean a woman, depending on the context.
That means it’s not gender neutral, it just means you use male as a default in most contexts.
Its gener neutral male leaning and is context specific. Like bastard or fucker.
“Bastard” is what you call “male leaning” because it was used for male children born outside of marriage who therefore couldn’t inherit titles.
It wasn’t used much for girls cause they couldn’t inherit titles anyway, so it didn’t matter.“Fucker” is “male leaning” cause women were historically not seen as doing the fucking. They were fucked.
But pegging.
Butt*
Me? I know who I am! I’m a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
Cunt is also genderless.
I’m a cunt. He’s a cunt. She’s a cunt. We’re all cunts!
Listen to this dude.
but am i a dude?
People really dont understand how languages work. Even brother and man can be gender neutral. If you say “man, whyd you do that” thats gender neutral. Same with dude and guy.
Whatever you say, girliepop
I’m a man but I love when people call me babygirl or something like that
Yo, something like that, send nudes
They look hot
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Niiiiice. This is like porn in the 00s.
This. I’ve got a fair few trans friends, and we’re all in agreement - unless it’s obvious we’re talking in gendered terms based on context, “dude”, “man”, “bro”, etc are just interjections, not reference to someone’s gender. And, when we are talking in gendered contexts, we tend to be pretty clear about that.
It’s really great that you have friends who are in a good enough place to not worry about that stuff.
This is really great news to me as I am all about telling my dudes it’s Wednesday!
gay men call each other sis and girl all the time too, for alternatives that go in reverse
me@lemmy~$ man
Bro y u so wrong
Thats a joke right? Because youre getting downvoted, but you yourself called me bro without knowing my gender so it must be a joke or youre the most oblivious person ive ever seen.
Is jokes
I always “y’all” and I’m not even from the south.
In parts of the south “y’all” is singular. “All y’all” is plural.
What?
As a super non-Southern USA guy, anytime I drop a “y’all” into convo, my Southerner friends say I’m not doing it right because I simply substitute all “you” instances with “y’all”.
I guess these friends don’t come from the singular-y’all part of the South.
Y’all is a really good pronoun and I think more people should use it.
It makes everyone sound American. This is sometimes okay.
As a Canadian, I use y’all, but usually only if the word ‘motherfuckers’ immediately follows it.
As someone from the west coast, I disagree.
I like comrade more, but y’all is shorter.
i’m from australia and i’ve adopted yall for exactly that reason
it also makes me real happy that some very transphobic shit heads would be furious if they knew that “their word” was part of the solution to gender neutral terminology
All zones can be the yall zone
I definitely use “guy” as gender neutral. I used to refer to women as “dude” as well, but it was a bit controversial so I stopped
I’m a dude. He’s a dude. She’s a dude. We’re all dudes!
I also follow the Less than Jake linguistic model.
This is a good joke but it really lets itself down by switching from “guys” to “dudes” when it’s about the former word…
It’s not a problem until someone tells you to not refer to them as a dude or a guy. If you continue, you are just an asshole 🤷🏻
Sure, but we’re talking plurals of strangers atm. “Please don’t call me a guy going forward” is a different conversation than “what you just said is stupid, mean, and wrong”.
Your facts are not what OP wrote, though. And in this context the facts are relevant, which is the point.
Bad red herring.
We don’t know what happened. What makes you think that what op wrote isn’t the facts. I can totally see something like that happening it’s not at all unbelievable.
It’s the same picture?
No it really isn’t. One clearly and directly communicates a need. The other response shies away from that and insults without explaining why.
Drag… Supposes, that’s how it would look without applying much empathy. But if someone gets called something and says it’s bad, it must be clear they don’t like it. If they’re angry, that’s a kind of upset. It means they could be hurting. Drag would understand no matter how someone phrased it.
If the other party is 3, then yes. From adults I expect ability to differentiate between stating a need and throwing a tantrum.
Drag is very forgiving when a trans person is upset they’ve been misgendered. Growing up as the wrong gender is traumatic. It can literally give you cPTSD and personality disorders. Being triggered because you feel like you’re back in that situation is a completely understandable response. Drag uses gender neutral “guys”, but acknowledges that it’s a dangerous practice, and if you hurt someone then you need to own it. They don’t owe anyone politeness in that moment. If drag didn’t like that responsibility, drag wouldn’t take risks with other people’s mental health.
Out of curiosity, have your therapist told you ever about the dangers of using third person pronoun when expressing yourself? Like it strengthens the disassociation between you and your body and mind, etc. etc? If not, please change them.
This is coming from a genuine place, I’m not trying to be sarcastic or mean.
I mean I’ll be nice about it and correct to girls or ladies or whatever, but that conversation is probably over
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I just told you I would respect it. But I don’t view “you guys” as something divisive. So yeah I don’t want to be around those people
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Nah I’m doing pretty ok.
Also fuck maga
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I’m not pretending? And I’m also not hard-line
I think it’s more that if you get annoyed at something like that, I would think you’re way too much of a hassle to be friends with long term. It’s just a matter of compatibility and the choice to filter out incompatible people in your social circle. It’s nothing personal.
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Of course I would stop at their request, however if I were that person with PTSD, I wouldn’t expect the world to cater to my disabilities and strategise on how I could function in society by managing it. That’s what I currently do with my own PTSD and it makes me a stronger person for it.
Also, that’s hardly comparable to using the phrase “you guys” in a conversation. That phrase has always been gender neutral and far nicer sounding than “you people” or “you all”.
Edit: and also, yes I would have no idea on why the other party would take offence to the phrase “you guys” but I would also be under no obligation to establish a friendship with them beyond that conversation. I don’t expect someone I’ve just met to trauma dump on me and I don’t want them to.
Of course, I would correct myself in that conversation and not use the phrase “you guys” after they’ve told me not to use it, because it’s polite to do so, but that won’t stop me feeling that I can’t be myself around them.
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I am a victim of sexual assault and, yes, I would absolutely say that. My problems are my own and I’m not about to force others to cater to my personal demons.
Sounds like you might be from the US or somewhere where medical help isn’t freely available. I deal with my trauma with medication and counselors/psychiatrists so that I can function and contribute to society because that’s the standard that I hold for others, especially myself.
Well, there’s a massive difference between “don’t call me a guy” and someone saying “hey guys” to a group to have one member fire back a response about gendered terms
One of these is clear stating of respectful boundaries, the other one is just offloading (and very likely speaking for/over others) to score imaginary purity points
At some point you need to take responsibility for your insecurities and work on moving past them rather then expecting society to placate you. Languages evolve, so if your end goal is gender equality (or even if its not), the best thing you can do is accept that words are context sensative and “dude” and “guys” can be neutral terms.
Alternatively, if a woman asks you not to call her a guy or a dude, respect that.
I’m so fucking sick of the neg culture that pretends to be politically correct. There’s malicious sexism and loads of assholes out there for sure but some feel emboldened to attack anyone they construe to be saying what they think is wrong regardless of context.
Someone will always be offended by absolutely fucking everything. They can go fuck themselves.
Hell, in the Irish TV series “Bad Sisters”, the women have called each other collectively “lads”. If that’s the kind of thing that grinds your gears, you’re better off surgically excising the part of your brain that deals with language comprehension, so you can never again understand anything being said to you.
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Shouldn’t it have been “How many guys have you fucked?” He didn’t say “you dudes.”
Obviously fake, but the response is a total non-sequitur to set up for the grindr but.
I view “guys” and “dudes” as gender neutral but when its directed towards me i start feeling like shit
Man… I’m sorry.
Man…
Thomas has never seen such bs before
Real and gay
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