• buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    And yet this country chose to elect a president who has in no uncertain terms said he will dissolve Obamacare which will only give more money and power to the CEOs of shitty healthcare companies.

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      But the reason many voted for him, or simply didn’t vote at all was because the traditional poloticians weren’t helping either. Kind of a “banging my head against this wall hasn’t worked, let try this other wall.”

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        19 days ago

        More line “I didn’t bother educating myself on these two walls but when I was growing up in the 80s ‘R’ next to a name meant financial security to my daddy, so now that the economy isn’t great I need to vote R.”

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        I am too young to have experienced what it was like Pre Obamacare. But as I understand it, insurance companies used to be able to drop you if you cost too much. What is the point of their existence then? What is the point of buying insurance if they can just drop you if you cost too much.

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        How so. I always thought the things like forcing them to keep children till they’re 26 and not being able to drop people for pre existing conditions were good for consumers.

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          It also mandated people buy coverage and let them have 20% overhead which is absurdly high. Marketplaces added subsidies for buying insurance, which is ultimately a benefit to the insurance company. It also expanded Medicaid, which pays out tons to insurance companies through HMO plans. It also gave them justification to raise rates, as they now had to cover more things.

          Covering kids until 26 is nice, but it’s basically free from the insurance company perspective. Covering pre-existing conditions is a negative, but there’s still room to increase premiums from it. The overall affect of the bill was positive for insurance companies.

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            It also mandated people buy coverage

            Which got dropped fast, which I think is good, myself, for the reason you stated next:

            and let them have 20% overhead

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        Yeah, the only good thing about Trump possibly destroying the ACA is that I may provide the impetus to replace it with something better. I somewhat doubt that, but there’s a chance, especially if we start seeing a lot more hate towards health insurance companies.

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          No - I’m not letting this logic fester or gain traction. Trump and republicans do not want to replace the ACA. That’s a complete and total fantasy. Democrats took decades to get the ACA enacted, so once it’s gone it’s probably gone for decades. If republicans gave a damn they would’ve helped fix what is wrong with the ACA, but they’d rather full repeal with no plan to replace. Listen to what any of them say or do, they wear it as a badge of honor.

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            I meant after they destroy it and democrats, or whoever, take back power. Obviously Republicans aren’t going to replace it with anything good.

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              They had zero actual plan to replace it with anything last time they took it away, they didn’t even really pretend to even have one.

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      If caught, this guy could be convicted of a felony. He has also shot someone on “5th Avenue”. Likely this guy could get elected president and avoid serving any time. There’s precedent.