I ain’t young, but this is my first election where I am a real lefty, and… Has it always been this bad?
The liberal seething is just disgusting right now. You can’t be on any place of the internet that has any discussion about politics whatsoever.
If you suggest that the Democrats should be better, then you get called out for trying to make Trump president
If you respond that now is the time to actually put pressure on candidates because they’re running for office and in any fucking reasonable place, this is where they would make campaign promises and you can demand stuff out of them, then they say that you’re being a fascist.
The liberal propaganda is just mind numbing.
Even the traditionally leftist places on Reddit (a place I visit very infrequently, so small changes add up over time when I visit and see the crazies have come out of the woodworks) are getting inundated with a bunch of “but the GOP is worse”, and “we have to compromise” and blah blah blah. Even in some commie spaces.
Like I understand not being a doomer, and trying to actually make things better in the meantime while we build forces for the revolution, but holy shit, it’s like Anyone to the right of Marxist Leninists have immediately caved to pressure.
always has been
Sad, but at least I see it now :/
true… baking through ignorance is often painful, which is why we often fight it
Always has been!
I’m not an American, or living in the US, but I’ve been following US politics since 2006. In online spaces it’s always been this bad.
Yup. Welcome aboard comrade. Try not to let it break your sanity.
It’s bad and it’s only going to get worse. The weaker the center gets the more unhinged liberals will become and the more we will see them compromise with and adopt the positions of the far right rather than give ground to the left.
like macron did with forming the conservative government even though the leftists got the most votes.
For most things the majority of the world is on our side. And for the rest is partly why MLs aren’t tailists.
US politics has been a shitshow since as long as I can remember or have ever read about. Other countries have their own weirdness with politics, too.
To avoid feeling too negative, I try to keep a few things in mind. First, shit was way fucked up in the past, too. So don’t panic, because you’re not the first person in this position. Second, many people love to polarize things. Us vs. them. My way or the highway. You’re either with us or against us… And it’s hard for the pro-polarization folk to realize that their perspective is a shallow one, that they’re getting played because of it. They really don’t wanna have to learn more, to use their brains. Careful thinking is so irritating… And you and I can’t fix that. We just have to live with it, work around it.
I’m gonna keep in mind what you and others have said that this is nothing new and I don’t have to panic. At least I know this wave will pass like every other.
It sucks though. I feel unironically red-pilled. Just a different perspective on things and it’s weird.
I used to have such strong positive feelings for Democrats and such strong negative feelings for Republicans and I remember literally feeling back in the day that I could not imagine feeling any differently. Now I hate them both (for sifferent reasons) and that’s just a weird feeling.
I’ve heard good things about the APL(American party of labour) and there are some comrades from CPUSA around here, seek out one or the other, or if you find any Marxist organization around you and join the struggle, being a Marxist in isolation is somewhat contradictory and very saddening as well, seek an organization (assuming you have the time and energy for it) and work together
Yeah, the long story short about that is I have made some strides and joined FRSO and have talked to some people, and even was organizing until life caught up recently (medical, work). The group is very small, very limited where I am and I’m outside the city nowadays, so it’s a lot harder for me to do in-person events.
Im planning getting re-involved, but that’s gonna take awhile unfortunately.
Sinister.
