GOP lawmakers and analysts virtually unanimous that Trump was second best to Harris in first presidential debate

GOP lawmakers and analysts virtually unanimous that Trump was second best to Harris in first presidential debate

Donald Trump’s campaign was in damage control mode on Wednesday amid widespread dismay among supporters over a presidential debate performance that saw Kamala Harris, his Democratic opponent, repeatedly goad him into going wildly off-message and missing apparent opportunities to tackle her on policy.

Even with Trump insisting to have won the debate “by a lot”, Republicans were virtually unanimous that Trump had come off second best in a series of exchanges that saw the vice-president deliberately bait him on his weak points while he responded with visible anger.

The Republican nominee – who took the unusual step afterwards of visiting the media spin room, a venue normally frequented only by candidates’ surrogates – was non-committal on Wednesday to the Harris campaign’s proposal for a second debate. Despite widespread opinion to the contrary, Trump suggested she needed it because she had lost. “I’d be less inclined to because we had a great night. We won the debate,” he told Fox & Friends.

  • Letsdothis@lemmy.world
    124·
    2 months ago

    Lol. Sounds like you’ve already ingested too much propaganda. You’re parroting it perfectly. You’ve mixed stupid personal opinion with the main stream medias rhetoric.

    Concepts of a plan? Eating pets?

    Go look up the definition of “concept.” Having a concept of a plan like nearly like saying, “I have a plan of a plan.” Which would be redundant. Saying, “I have a concept of a plan,” is like basically saying, “I have a plan.” There is nothing weird or wrong about the phrase, “i have a concept of a plan.” This is English anyway, always flexible. You parroting those talking points indicates to me you are probably incapable of an independent discerning perspective.

    • Twodozeneggs@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      12·
      2 months ago

      ‘I have Concepts of a plan, I’m not president’ That’s a weak, dog ate my homework, BS non-answer that any intelligent listener heard and understood as such.

      ‘eating pets’ You gonna defend the ex president repeating easily disproven twitter misinfo on the debate stage too? We both know it would’ve bothered you if Kamala did.

      Any major gaffes or mistakes made by Kamala you care to mention? Or was it just her face that you, a paragon of impartiality, object to?

      • Letsdothis@lemmy.world
        116·
        2 months ago

        I’m not going to argue every point with you. Waste of my time/energy.

        That’s a weak, dog ate my homework, BS non-answer that any intelligent listener heard and understood as such.

        … No, it demonstrates that those who share your perspective probably failed English in high school. Your claim of intelligence is fallacious. I’m sorry… fallacious means it was wrong or deceptive. I’ll use smaller words for you.

        ‘I have concepts of a plan, I’m not president’

        This could be clearer. But it conveys that one has ideas or concepts of a plan but not in a position of authority to implement it.

        I hope many read this so I don’t have to keep “ELI5” to everyone.

        (Edit: added the word “could”)

        • Twodozeneggs@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          7·
          2 months ago

          Lots of typos for someone championing high school english…

          So your brilliant analysis that I overlooked in my assessment is that:

          “concepts of a plan conveys that one has ideas or concepts of a plan”

          Lmao, your brain worms must be starving

          • Letsdothis@lemmy.world
            110·
            2 months ago

            So your brilliant analysis that I overlooked in my assessment is that:

            “concepts of a plan conveys that one has ideas or concepts of a plan”

            Lol, yes! Are you ok? Yes, It means what it means. It doesn’t have to be explained any different. I honestly don’t understand why you and so many others cant comprehend this simple phrase.

            • nomous@lemmy.world
              6·
              2 months ago

              He should’ve just said he plan then, or done that in 2016, or in 2020. Reality is he doesn’t have one but understands what a plan is. Hence he “has a concept” of a plan but doesn’t actually have a plan. Luckily he has MAGAts to explain what be REALLY meant.

              • Letsdothis@lemmy.world
                15·
                2 months ago

                … you all over the place, buddy. Nearly incomprehensible. Did you have anything of substance to add?

                • nomous@lemmy.world
                  5·
                  2 months ago

                  Read slower, if you can decipher Donnie’s ramblings you shouldn’t have any problems.

        • Zabjam@lemm.ee
          6·
          2 months ago

          That barely holds up if you consider this argument in a vacuum. Brought into the context that Trump said he had better plan than Obamacare since 2016, your argument is utter bullshit.

          • Letsdothis@lemmy.world
            18·
            2 months ago
            1. It’s not an argument. It’s me explaining a simple phrase. 2. Yes, the phrase does hold up in a vacuum. 3. Why would we consider it in a vacuum?

            And then… you say

            Brought into the context that Trump said

            So… you aren’t putting it in a vacuum, you are putting it in the context of something 8 years ago. (Relevancy here is a stretch)…

            your argument is utter bullshit.

            My argument…? What was my argument?

            • Zabjam@lemm.ee
              1·
              2 months ago

              Wait… You are arguing just about semantics but say stuff like arguing about points made by someone else would be waisting time? Be gone troll.

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
          4·
          2 months ago

          I’m not going to argue every point with you. Waste of my time/energy.

          Translation: I can’t defend the clearly batshit crazy thing so I’m going to try to ignore it.

          You’ve been wasting a lot of time/energy replying here, but for some reason responding to the fact that Trump said immigrants were eating pets, post birth abortions are happening, and children are coming home from school having had gender changing surgery forced upon them, well that’s just minor quibbles not worth arguing about…

          • Letsdothis@lemmy.world
            16·
            2 months ago

            You’ve been wasting a lot of time/energy replying here

            Hah you’re not wrong about that. I’m nearly worn out now.

            I haven’t answered those topics for a few reasons. Some are more nuanced/complicated and require more effort, and like you said, I’ve “been wasting a lot of time/energy replaying” already. But no, they aren’t “minor quibbles” and totally worth arguing, but I have enough on my plate already.

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
              4·
              2 months ago

              Translation: it’s indefensible and should disqualify him, so I’m going to try to keep the conversation on other topics as much as possible and hopefully people will forget the completely bat shit insane things Trump claimed.

              • Letsdothis@lemmy.world
                16·
                2 months ago

                Translation: You’re a dumb ass

                Edit: sorry… y’all’ve sapped my energy with idiocy.

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                  4·
                  2 months ago

                  Interesting, you still have the time and energy to respond, but not about the specific bat shit crazy things Trump claimed…