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    Oh it is a democracy, but not “direct democracy”. We don’t choose what happens, we just choose who decides what happens.

    Those in power bribe, threaten, and lie, and we can’t do shit about it because the actual hood guys end due to harassment or threats and can’t deal with it psychologically.

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      Oh it is a democracy, but not “direct democracy”. We don’t choose what happens, we just choose who decides what happens.

      Still not a democracy, you just described a Republic, which is what we’ve always officially been even if die hard patriots prefer to say democracy

      Those in power bribe, threaten, and lie, and we can’t do shit about it because the actual hood guys end due to harassment or threats and can’t deal with it psychologically.

      Plutocracy in action

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        Oh it is a democracy, but not “direct democracy”. We don’t choose what happens, we just choose who decides what happens.

        Still not a democracy, you just described a Republic, which is what we’ve always officially been even if die hard patriots prefer to say democracy

        What are you talking about? The people electing representatives that makes the final decisions is called “representative democracy”. A republic is a form of representative democracy. A constitutional monarchy, like you find a lot of in Europe, is another form of representative democracy that fit the original description, without being republics.

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        I think more than a few “patriots” feel the need to point out that we’re a republic, not a democracy.

        “Democracy isn’t the objective; liberty, peace, and prosperity are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that.”

        Because the idea that people should get a say is ridiculous.

        It’s figuring out how to maintain dominance with a minority of support. And so, in that sense, I think the rhetoric is really telling. It’s a way of rationalizing the further entrenchment of minority rule.

        “Too much democracy” interferes with their plans.

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        Either way, society is fucked until we got nothing left but to revolt - but that will never happen, as the carrot is being dangled all the time.

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        It’s a Republican Democracy… a Democratic Federal Republic… whatever you want to call it, point is it’s both a Republic and a Democracy. They’re not mutually exclusive categories. In fact, most categories you can use to describe the structure/type of a government aren’t very exclusive categories. Governments are very complex and can be a lot of different things, so we have a lot of different terms (and different usages of those terms) to narrow a description down.