The situation at Columbia has even drawn the attention of the White House, joining local leaders in urging calm.

“While every American has the right to peaceful protest, calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students and the Jewish community are blatantly antisemitic, unconscionable, and dangerous,” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement shared with CNN on Sunday.

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      Right, Judaism is so “western” that it existed long before the west existed. Much “western.”

      I’d say I’m sorry that obvious historical fact disturbs so many liberals - but I won’t. Because I’m not.

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        I’m sorry your hot take is what here exactly? Antisemitism didn’t exist before the cultural concept of ‘the west’? Because that’s just patently false

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          You do understand that we can track where antisemitism comes from, right? Even all the way past the Spanish Reconquista and the subsequent instututionalization of the very first race laws?

          White supremacism and antisemitism is as fundamental to “western civilization” as… well - I guess there really isn’t anything else to “western civilization,” is there? And that includes the liberalism that’s overflowing here on lemmy.world.

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            I never said the west didnt/doesn’t practice antisemitism, but to call a “Western invention” is patently false. And just sprinkling “liberalism” throughout your comments doesn’t make you sound like an enlightened leftist, it makes you sound uneducated. You can’t even identify it and you’re just calling people liberals left and right lmao. How can Judaism simultaneously both predate the West and antisemitism be invented by the west? Antisemitism has existed since the beginning, literally in their own books.

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              Wanna take a wild guess who invented the term “Semitic.” liberal?

              (1879 statute of the Antisemitic League, the organization which first popularized the term.)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people#/media/File:Statuten_der_Antisemiten-Liga.jpg)

              You were saying, liberal?

              How can Judaism simultaneously both predate the West and antisemitism be invented by the west?

              You do realize that people existed in Africa before “western civilization” invented “race science”, right?

              Please take a moment to appreciate just how garbage your understanding of history really is. You know what they say - acknowledging your condition is the first step toward recovery.

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                We’re not talking about race science we’re talking about hatred for Jews existing long before the concept of ‘the west’. You’re either willfully ignorant of non Western countries xenophobia or you’re an apologist. Sounds like a pretty liberal stance to me, liberal.

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                  we’re talking about hatred for Jews existing long before

                  PThen you should have no problem proving it, should you?

                  You’re either willfully ignorant of non Western countries xenophobia

                  Yeah… attempting to excuse the west’s invention of white supremacism and antisemitism by pretending “everybody else was doing it, too” is about as ahistorical and apologetic as it gets, lib.

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                    PThen you should have no problem proving it, should you?

                    Yeah it was actually rather easy, just one Google search away to know you’re spouting bullshit.

                    The first clear examples of anti-Jewish sentiment can be traced back to Alexandria in the 3rd century BCE. Alexandrian Jewry were the largest Jewish community in the world and the Septuagint, a Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, was produced there. Manetho, an Egyptian priest and historian of that time, wrote scathingly of the Jews and his themes are repeated in the works of Chaeremon, Lysimachus, Poseidonius, Apollonius Molon, and in Apion and Tacitus.

                    Source: The History of Antisemitism, Classical Period (Wikipedia)

                    Yeah… attempting to excuse the west’s invention of white supremacism

                    I don’t think I saw the commenter you’re replying to ever try to excuse Western White Supremacism, or say they didn’t invent it. I think they were merely pointing out that there’s been anti-jewish hatred for far longer than there’s been a “West”.