Ancient Greek philosophers’ views on slavery are complex and can’t be boiled down to a reply that would retain all the nuance yet would not be annoyingly long to read. Nonetheless, their views on slavery do not invalidate their views on politics.
Are you unable to grasp that someone can explain an opinion without holding said opinion? Are you unable to grasp that I can describe a political system without advocating for it? That I can show the history behind it without endorsing it?
Are you unable to grasp that you can agree with someone on one topic without agreeing with them on everything? Are you unable to grasp that people are more than one-dimensional points on a spectrum and that there can be nuance and intricacies in their way of thinking, some of which is agreeable, some of which is not? That no idea or person can be described merely as a binary choice of “good” or “bad”?
Or have you no grasp at all of the rules of logic and the art of rhetoric, leaving you with nothing but strawmen and ad hominem left?
For his time, Socrates (whether actually real or Plato’s fictional character for the dialogues) was incredibly, dare I say radically, forward-thinking in his ethics.
I think it is very common knowledge that the biggest downside of democracy is the general stupidity of most of the voting population.
Not inherently stupid, mind you. Un(der)educated and lied to by those they should be able to trust.
I guess we should let the smart people choose what’s right for them, and not give them a vote……
This is essentially the system that Socrates advocated for.
Who chooses who is “smart?” The right wing?
The system is described in Plato’s Republic. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia. This idea pre-dates the concept of “left” and “right”.
I made a slight mistake in my previous comment. Plato was the one who came up with it, but his work is in the form of a Socratic dialogue.
Hey, aren’t those the guys that argued repeatedly that slavery is natural and good?
Ancient Greek philosophers’ views on slavery are complex and can’t be boiled down to a reply that would retain all the nuance yet would not be annoyingly long to read. Nonetheless, their views on slavery do not invalidate their views on politics.
Yes it does, Mr Cryptofascist unironically arguing to restrict the vote to landowning males.
Are you unable to grasp that someone can explain an opinion without holding said opinion? Are you unable to grasp that I can describe a political system without advocating for it? That I can show the history behind it without endorsing it?
Are you unable to grasp that you can agree with someone on one topic without agreeing with them on everything? Are you unable to grasp that people are more than one-dimensional points on a spectrum and that there can be nuance and intricacies in their way of thinking, some of which is agreeable, some of which is not? That no idea or person can be described merely as a binary choice of “good” or “bad”?
Or have you no grasp at all of the rules of logic and the art of rhetoric, leaving you with nothing but strawmen and ad hominem left?
For his time, Socrates (whether actually real or Plato’s fictional character for the dialogues) was incredibly, dare I say radically, forward-thinking in his ethics.