Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.
And who wants to predict the flood of catholics saying the pope isn’t catholic because of this statement?
They already did that when he told people to be nice to trans people. He didn’t tell them to embrace them into their lives, just treat them nice and they lost their shit about it.
To be fair, he said be nice. Modern christianity demands brutal suppression of anyone you don’t like.
The new document repeats that rationale and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong sacrament between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union, using set rituals or even with the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.
So no real moral progress from the Catholic Church; just more PR to get people back in the pews.
If Catholic God was real, he should be seeking out our love and mercy.
moral progress
What’s that?
To pull from Folding Ideas:
Vatican II is in some regards progressive, but only as progressive as needed to retain membership and improve political relations with other conservative organizations.
This is basically the modus operandi of not just Vatican II, but of most policy changes the church makes. Modernizing, reforming, and liberalizing are reactive steps they take to stem the loss of parishioners and thus mindshare in society.
What’s that got to do with the price of tea in China?
Acknowledging our arbitrary bigoted views and changing for the better to be accepting of differences. For example, moving past homophobia.
That seems like a very narrow definition. Are you sure you’re not just spouting your opinion?
Do you think definitions are vetted based on broadness?
Vetted by whom?
I just asked you that, pumpkin
No you didn’t.
Provide a definition if you think my very broad description with a single example out of many possible examples is inaccurate.
inaccurate
What do you mean?
You questioned whether I was just spouting an opinion, which would imply that it was inaccurate.
Feel free to provide a definition.
You questioned whether I was just spouting an opinion, which would imply that it was inaccurate.
Would imply what was inaccurate?
I have no interest in semantic rabbit trails.
If you are unable to infer my meaning, then I’m sorry about that.
It’s OK, don’t worry, I already downvoted.
Oh no! A downvote? How will I ever recover from this?!
IKR.
I love how it’s a “blessing of a union” and NOT the sacrament of marriage, which would mean they are still “living in sin” but we love you and accept you but winks at the right they aren’t married. Separate but equal much? This is hilariously bad pandering and I hope they get flak from all directions. Fuck the catholic church and fuck the vatican.
Baby steps, dude. Plus, the need the numbers, membership is down and it’s affecting the bottom line
He says they “can” but knows they won’t or quietly tells them not to. This pope is all PR and bullshit he knows they won’t follow through on. The Pope can pretend that Catholics are now tolerant of gay people, but go to a Catholic Church throughout most of the planet, particularly the third world and see how tolerant they are and how much they follow the Pope. They are tolerant of pedophiles in their clergy though, since they don’t seem to want to fix that issue
I knew a lot of Catholics that didn’t have a problem with gay people.
God’s love is for everyone, types.
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Don’t buy into the PR of a trillion dollar corporation, disguised as a religion.
It’s progress, I suppose. But are there any Gays that would actively seek out a blessing from an institution who sees their lifestyle as “objectively disordered”?
are there any Gays that would actively seek out a blessing
Yes. That’s why the pope made this decision.
I’ve found a surprising number of the European gays I know are more likely to hold on to their religion than the American ones I know, but they are also far less likely to interpret the bible literally to begin with.
To be honest I can’t think of a single Christian whose lifestyle isn’t considered “objectively disordered” by the Church.
The new document repeats that condition and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong union between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings in question must not be tied to any specific Catholic celebration or religious service and should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union ceremony. Moreover, the blessings cannot use set rituals or even involve the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.
The Church is doomed to become obsolete. Until they accept that gay people have the right to marry (and they won’t), people will move away from the Church.
The times are changing, and the Church will sooner or later fall into irrelevancy. Besides, it’s not like their God is doing anything helpful at all in these times of crisis, is he?
God works in MyStErIoUs ways 😤🙄🤮
Pope is trying to save their religion. If anyone knows the Dire Straits organized religion is in the West is the pope. Why would anyone be part of something that is so hateful towards you or someone you know?
The Pope is WRONG!
-People who want to run the country based on the Word of God.
Crazy how God created the universe 13.8 billion years ago and then changes his mind on policies now. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that people were making up these policies arbitrarily.
far too little and thousands of years too late. the catholic church is a violent, authoritarian child rape and child genital mutilation cult and needs to be entirely destroyed.
I don’t give a flying fuck what the poop thinks.
Be gay, do crime.
