These TVs can capture and identify 7,200 images per hour, or approximately two every second. The data is then used for content recommendations and ad targeting, which is a huge business; advertisers spent an estimated $18.6 billion on smart TV ads in 2022, according to market research firm eMarketer.
Obviously
Honestly the least I’d expect of a smart TV.
… but it isn’t able to tell anyone, as it is not connected to the Internet. Poor smart TV.
If there are any unsecured networks in your vicinity it might be telling on you without you knowing.
Pull one of your old routers from the back of closet, and use it to make a completely new network just for your TV. If you don’t connect the router to the rest of the internet, your TV is happy to connect to something, and you get to keep your privacy a little bit longer.
Not everyone has an old router. I do, but not everyone.
Why do I keep an old router?
Cause it still works, doesn’t take up much space, and doesn’t really eat a whole lot just siting there.
Also, 2 is one, 1 is none. Good to have a fall back in case hardware dies
if you’re this paranoid, just buy one of those mcdonalds menu screen tvs or just rip out all of the wifi electronics. i can imagine it being one of those standard modules like in laptops.
Until it doesn’t work at all since the wifi chip is integral to boot up.
Just make your own TV
What’s the funny-to-serious timeline for this comment, fifteen years?
I’m a little surprised we haven’t heard about one of these smart TV brands using something like Amazon Sidewalk yet to communicate the analyzed data:
https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/
A popular brand could totally set up their own network like this and with apartments there would probably be sufficient density to ensure that there’s always at least one connected device nearby to act as a bridge.
Well that’s pretty terrifying.
Need to figure out how to block that now. Sigh
Faraday cage.
Any evidence of that or are you just speculating?
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I have my old (stupid) tv from like 2013, works perfectly fine. No apps, no firmware, no ads, no tracking. Never felt the need to buy a smart tv, but I’m afraid it’d be near impossible to find a new one that isn’t nowadays I’d mine broke down.
This is the only reason I have a smart TV. I didn’t want one, in fact it prompted me to make an SSID and VLAN just for it, then applied a bunch of DNS blocks. Unfortunately my old 2012 TV wasn’t worth shipping across the country and the image was getting pretty dim and it had started developing dead pixels.
If you want anything above 1080p that’s a dumb TV you have to go commercial like the hospitality market and they charge you way more for it. And they won’t even sell it to you without a corporate account in most places.
The only way to get 4K and HDR without the smarts as a consumer is to buy a giant gaming monitor… and those too ask for quite a premium, because gamers.
Have you tried just not connecting it to the internet, and using a streaming box?
I opted to connect it because it’s the only device in the house Netflix is willing to give more than 720p. I hate DRM.
That’s just some epic bullshit. Netflix’s tiering is just asinine.
They come with the crap built in these days.
I know. Don’t connect it to the internet, and don’t use the crap
Yeah, I’m waiting for the death of my current TV. A LG that’s plain old LCD, but HDR and 4k, no smart shit. Luckily I know hardware and can physically disable things. I break and remove things so hardware is physically incapable of connecting.
My smart TV is blocked from the internet. It doesn’t know shit.
oh it knows. it just can’t tell anyone!
I am so glad I don’t have a TV. It’s just the Internet with even more ads, minus the Internet.
It doesn’t have to be. I get everything for free, no subscriptions, no ads. I’m pretty happy with the deal.
I’m pretty sure my Android TV powered by Google™ knows more than what I’m watching. It could probably give me therapy if I threw a LLM on there.
Good to know I’m not paranoid enough tho.
Yep.
I got a Fire Stick early on, ditched it after a year.
Have a Samsung smart TV now, working to stop using the smart part and run more self hosted, and isolate apps like Netflix and Amazon.
Worst part about this is I have an OLED, if I use a different device for features I risk burn. Netflix on the tv will show a screensaver and go black after 2 minutes. Pressing pause on Netflix on the ps5 or appletv means you get a static screen until you return.
I wish we could get what we pay for and not be products ourselves.
I leave the TV on all day for the cats, I’m sure they’re getting lots of useful data while they sleep in front of MASH reruns
laughs in crtv and dvd player
Next up: Televisions that don’t have off switches and never go to sleep.
We could call them telescreens maybe
Mine connects through pihole with all LG domains blocked. I’m not getting any update request, notifications or anything. Just Netflix.
Obligatory pihole doesn’t block anything if they use their own dns. You can probably force all port 53 traffic through pihole if you have a decent router though.
Thanks for the reminder.
Blocking all DNS other than PiHole is a great thing to do.
Just setup mine a week ago. Already up to 28% blocked, and no ads on the smart TV (which makes it a little faster)
You can.
Source; I’ve done it. Don’t forget to redirect/block DNS over HTTPS as well. Usually port 853.
It says in the article there’s a privacy request option if you own a samsung tv. I went ahead and sent a request to not sell my data, although not sure if it’s effective since I’m not in CA.
on our vizio, from the settings side panel: all settings->admin/privacy->viewing data. turn it off.
I wouldn’t trust it anyway. I would only trust a TV that does not have Internet access, period.
SmartTV: This customer loves watching Balance of Nature ads
Me: fuck balance of nature I fucking hate those stupid scammy ads!
Is that you Santa?
