“You must be a legal resident of Iowa and the precinct you live in and bring a photo ID with you to participate,” the state Republican party said on Friday in a post on the social media platform X.
The party is scheduled to hold local gatherings, known as the Iowa Caucus, on Jan. 15 in which participants will vote for their choice for the Republican candidate to run in November’s presidential election. U.S. President Joe Biden is expected to be the Democratic Party’s nominee.
The state Republican Party posted its reminder after Casey DeSantis, appearing on Fox News with her husband, the governor of Florida, called on women from across the country to join the gatherings, saying, “You do not have to be a resident of Iowa to participate."
Behind every dumb cardboard cutout of an alt right candidate is a suffering wife who has no idea what’s going on and just wants to order Thigh food.
I wanna go to Thighland
To get the thigh massage
And has realized that she left nothing behind… Other than compliance to Her Man…
Some like it like that, eh?
Republicans: “We’re attacked with illegal votes!”
De Santis wife: “Non-residents, vote for us.”
Took me, a non-US citizen, a while to get the joke.
Sort of, poster left out the key quote that triggered the post from the Republican party:
“We are asking all of these moms and grandmoms to come from wherever it might be, North Carolina, South Carolina, and to descend upon the state of Iowa,” said Casey DeSantis, who has been promoting a “Mamas for DeSantis” coalition as she campaigns for her husband.
So non-resident in this context would be out of state.
Shitty that they have to bring photo ID, which poorer people disproportionately do not have.
As a non-us Citizen: why? Do you have to pay to get an ID?
Minor fees for some. It’s often the paperwork, time, proof of id, and locations that become the barrier. We don’t have national IDs here, but use a stupid Social Security Number that was never designed for the purpose and is literally sequential at birth. This makes proof of identity a task.
It was almost $40 just to renew my DL in my county. I swear it wasn’t as much in the last county I lived in, but it was just insane.
There’s usually discount programs for low-income folks, but the interesting part is needing proof of being low-income. Sometimes homeless shelters will transport people and help them fill out the paperwork and they have vouchers for the fee.
It’s crazy that all of that is needed when every data broker and arm of the government knows what you had for breakfast yesterday, but you still have to jump through this many hoops yourself to get something with your name on it.
Because rich people don’t want to pay any taxes.
Hinest question. Without ID how do you know who they are? How do you know they haven’t already voted?
The way Iowa does it, to my understanding, is they gather and a number of people speak in favor of candidates, and they take the poll live. So it’s a good evening at the polling site.
I hear that argument all the time and I don’t buy it. You need photo ID to get a job, have a bank account, see a doctor, get a prescription, buy smokes/alcohol/adult video games/legal weed, drive a car, and by extension have insurance, rent a place to live, get a mortgage.
The only significantly large group who don’t do any of that are the Amish.
In many states you have to present multiple forms of ID to get ID. Its a catch 22 in many places that disproportionately affects lower income people. If you lose your ID in Florida, depending on your residency status and whether the Tax Collector’s office is enforcing rules, you may have to present birth certificate or a Social Security Card. To get a copy of your Social Security Card, you have to have a valid photo ID. Birth certificates require a permanent residence, access to online payment (bank account), and internet access to the right websites.
A lot of lower income people don’t have mortgages, drive, see medical professionals regularly, etc. Part of that is because of the barriers to easily getting a replacement ID that exist.
I worked with these individuals for years, and the amount of burden that it put people under was immense. In just my location alone I helped hundreds of people each year navigate government systems to get ID and aid. Its laughable how hard it is for the people wbo need help to access the programs that are currently in place.
I think the main problem is that IDs accepted by banks are not always valid for voting. I remember that in some state gun permit was valid for voting but student ID wasn’t. It’s all designed to skew the results just so slightly. Also, 5% of Americans don’t have a bank account. In close elections those numbers matter.
How old are you that you still get carded for cigarettes? What doctor do you go to that requires photo ID? You do not need photo ID to rent a place. You are just making half that shit up.
Definitely concur that half that list is made-up. The key point they’re missing is that nothing on that list is a right bestowed upon us. It shouldn’t cost you money in order to vote in an election.
Nothing on that list is a right, but the point is you have to have photo ID to function as a basic adult in this country, forget voting. Just going into the world, having a job and a bank account requires identification.
So you want to restrict voting to those individuals who only have a job and a bank account? That sure sounds familiar. Do you also think voters should have to pass a written test before exercising their right to vote too?
No, I’m saying the number of people who a) want to vote but b) don’t take part in any other sort of adult life due to not having ID is incredibly low.
Maybe you missed the everyone in the previous post. It doesn’t matter if it’s two people in the country (it’s likely at least a million, that would be less than 0.3%), no one eligible should not be able to vote.
Okay? So once again, are you saying it doesn’t matter if you discriminate against someone’s rights as long as they’re a minority? It’s like we’re reliving the 1800s-1960s with each one of your comments.
CmdrShepard’s argument here is important - you are looking at the burden to you, not the burden to the least capable person. Voting should be free to all. If you begin to argue that people who can’t get an ID shouldn’t vote, you should also be okay with me setting income requirements above your income for voting (I do quite well). That’s the slippery slope that people are arguing against. Everyone should be able to vote, full stop.
We already have an ID requirement, it’s a signature. If your signature doesn’t match, you have to correct it or your vote isn’t counted.
Here, the signature used, is the one from your state drivers license or ID card…
I have been required to show a photo ID for all of those things regularly throughout my entire life. Maybe you haven’t, and maybe some people don’t, but I have in several states.
I don’t smoke, but I stand behind people in line getting carded ALL THE TIME.
And I stand behind people who do not get carded for buying alcohol all the time. You only have to card someone if they look under 39.5 which is a pretty subjective measure (and a weird number to settle on) according to the signs posted at registers. So it’s almost like different places have different policies. Poorer areas like where I live tend to take the risk of carding less often.
There’s a whole bunch of comments explaining how low-income people aren’t able to do those things either, especially banking, and how that adds to the cycle of poverty. For anyone actually interested in an answer about what life is like for impoverished working people in the US, I would recommend reading Nickel and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich and Evicted by Matthew Desmond. The level of poverty that exists in America generally is, and should be, shocking to the average American. I really hope the Amish comment is a joke because it’s so so incredibly wrong.
And I’m saying I don’t buy the argument that there is any significant number of people who want to vote, really, sincerely want to vote, but gosh darn, they just can’t get ID.
In a world where you need ID to do pretty much anything.
Go read that book.
None of the things you just said are, or even should be, prerequisites to vote.
No, they are pre-requisites to be an adult in America.
It had its own penalty. Iowans don’t like non Iowans participating in their caucus. He will definitely lose votes.
Other than the primaries, what else do they have?
Corn?
Let them have their thing.
Popcorn …must get more popcorn…
Dumb and Dumber.
I’m usually not one to mock someone for their appearance, but people who bed with fascists get little sympathy from me.
Holy shit that makeup looks terrible.
(Most) People don’t choose their faces, but do choose their makeup. I think you’re ok on this one.
Maybe it’s because my phone is on the lowest brightness setting, but it looks much better to me than I was expecting after your comment.
I went to Google to see for myself and I found this article about her eyebrows https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/07/casey-desantis-eyebrows-sparked-important-national-debate.html
I would feel bad about her bad makeup if she wasn’t so supportive of ol’ pudding fingers