• penquin@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Capitalism and its endless profit motive should never be near the things that have direct effect on people’s well-being and livelihood. All the human basic necessities should be capitalism free, housing, healthcare, education… etc… If you want to built a better and healthier nation of course, but no one cares about the nation, money is above everything to these sick fucks.

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      11 months ago

      I kind of agree, but has this ever been done successfully? It seems to me at some point you disincentivize work to the point it all collapses

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        11 months ago

        The “disincentivize work” narrative has been debunked over and ove and over and over and over and over and over again. What the narrative says is “I am a lazy welfare queen if given the opportunity, so everyone else must be too.”

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            11 months ago

            Everyone who has ever measured response to welfare rolls and UBI tests. I found out easily, and you can too!

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              11 months ago

              Don’t have time to separate the wheat from the chaff today. But I understand if you don’t have any actual sources to back up your assertions.

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                    11 months ago

                    And I never will. There is no situation where perfectly credible evidence is submitted and the loser doesn’t handwave it and claim bias. That is why when I see a claim I find questionable, I immediately look it up myself.

                    Take a hint.

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        11 months ago

        It’s social democracy. It’s a slight socialism under a capitalist umbrella where social services are untouched by capitalism. All of Europe operates this way.

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        11 months ago

        It’s a fair question. The first universal basic income experiments have just begun in the last few years. Based on this article there’s been a little success at least.
        https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/multiple-countries-have-tested-universal-basic-income-and-it-works

        I think we’re only recently getting to a level of technology that we need less human workforce and can still prosper when inevitably some choose not to work.

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          Thanks, I am in favor of UBI, but like anything else I think the cost of everything will just rise to eat it up. With various trials going on, we should have better data soon

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      11 months ago

      But like, you bring up “human basic necessities” and soon the old arguments about Maslow’s Hierarchy rear their ugly head.