Does that strategy include negotiating with Democrats? No? Enjoy shutting it down.
They already negotiated with the President and backtracked on the deal they made. So, I don’t know how useful that would be.
This isn’t a “vacation” for federal employees. Many of which will have to go without pay but continue working until it’s resolved.
A very very tiny percent get paid with non appropriated funds and will keep getting paid.
But even the military won’t, we’ll back pay them, but most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. And even one missed check can have drastic consequences.
People enter federal service for stability, and Republicans constantly trying to take that away is just another way they try to shrink the government
Yes, and at times like these some military leaders tend to tell troops to “be financially ready” to go unpaid, and “there is no excuse for not paying your bills on time”.
Late and missed payments are sometimes reported to members’ leadership by the debtors, especially landlords. Normally this isn’t such a bad thing, since service members are expected to be on top of their debts at all times–but being punished for this when going unpaid is completely cruel.
It works too.
When I was in we got lined up for muster before elections days and our leadership would talk about how “this never happens with a Republican pres and voting is important”.
Completely ignorant that the reason is Dems won’t hold our military hostage for funding cuts to social programs.
The reason it almost never happens with a Republican pres, is republicans are the ones that make it happen.
And yeah, the main reason people lose security clearances (military and fed civilians) is financial issues like debts.
“this never happens with a Republican pres and voting is important”
Wow, in my experience they usually try to be more subtle than that.
If they actually said that it’s a violation of the Hatch act.
I was in an engine room in the Navy…
Fist fighting was still an acceptable way to solve personal disputes, and higher ups intentionally ignored stuff like the occasional black eye. It’s like the last bastion of “old navy”
The culture wasn’t a good thing, people got away with a lot of shit because no matter what happened, the ship has to keep moving.
They’ll get paid eventually, they always do. It’s not a vacation, it’s an unscheduled staycation.
You think during a shutdown people don’t have to work, but still get paid?
Maybe if they’re able to take leave, but that still their leave. And taking it now means they can’t take it when they want to. Taking off for a shutdown might mean they can’t take off around the holidays, they might not even have leave to take. Some like the VA don’t even have that option. They have to keep working regardless of if they’re getting paid.
It’s not “free days off” like so many people who’ve never worked a day in their lives for the government keep saying.
Yes they will get paid eventually. They put that into law after 2019. If you are furloughed, you cannot use leave. Even if you are emergency essential and still working during the shutdown, I don’t believe that you can be paid for leave (but you can still take it if it was scheduled before the shutdown).
but most Americans live paycheck to paycheck
This just seems like living outside of your means to me. Make better life choices so you’re not living paycheck to paycheck.
“Just be born rich, duh. If you can’t do that, just go get a job that makes a lot of money! It’s simple, you idiots!”
ffs
Lol, government job with a pension but can’t manage because need lifted truck. Ok
You’re a dumbass. Join us in the real world.
What is the average salary for a government employee? People buy all kinds of shit they don’t need then get surprised Pikachu when the credit card bill comes. Sorry, but I’m in the real world. I see it everyday.
That’s so naive it’s almost sweet.
Sure. Just as soon as wages catch up with the increases to the cost of living. Something that hasn’t happened in my lifetime.
8 members of that same party are working hard to ensure a shutdown. It’s funny how the whole party will bend over backwards to appease those 8 trying to tear the whole system down, but you can’t find 5 of them to work with the Democrats.
There is only one unforgivable sin in the Republican party, and that’s working with the Democrats.
The speaker vote was final confirmation that there are no more moderate conservatives in the house.
I hope the budget gets past Johnson’s porn filter.
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It’s called “compromise”, so they won’t actually do it or anything productive.
The only strategy they are working on is how to convince the voters it is the Democrats’ fault
Anything but their damn job?
What a freaking load. The cons love to play this stupid game at every opportunity. So tired of this party and all the harm they do.
Punchbowl News: “Ten days from now, the federal government will be on the brink of shutting down.”
“Here’s where things stand: Speaker Mike Johnson, in his second full week leading the House, is heading to the Capitol basement this morning to discuss several options to avert a shutdown come Nov. 17.”
“Meanwhile, across the Capitol, it’s becoming increasingly clear that the Senate is setting the stage to jam the House with a massive omnibus-like bill around the holidays. This is exactly what House Republicans have said they want to avoid. Unfortunately for them, the Senate GOP doesn’t really care"
- Fail to pass reasonable spending bill
- Repeat until plebe workers almost unpaid
- Push payola/cruelty-ridden shit spending bill through, demanding rights and support services as tribute because fuck the plebes anyway
- “We compromised despite stupid democrats”
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON — The federal government runs out of money in less than two weeks, but House Speaker Mike Johnson and his leadership team have yet to settle on a strategy to avert a shutdown.
But during the private meeting Monday, GOP leaders also discussed an idea, favored by conservatives, that calls for staggered, short-term stopgap funding measures.
The idea, first proposed by Rep. Andy Harris, R-Md., a member of the far-right Freedom Caucus, has been discussed in the Capitol — and panned on social media — as a “laddered” CR.
The general concept would be to keep the heat on the Senate to pass individual appropriations bills while giving hard-line Republicans in the House, who typically balk at stopgap funding measures, incentives to vote for them.
Johnson, who is enjoying a honeymoon period, has previously floated a short-term bill through January — or April, depending on what his members prefer — and even ultraconservatives said they’re willing to give him space to pursue it.
Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, the vice chair of the Appropriations Committee, said her preference is to continue moving full funding bills in “minibuses” — packaging three at a time.
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Federal Government Employees are expecting to have a long holiday break due to Republican incompetence.
Sadly it would be unpaid. Except for Congress of course. They would still get fat checks for failure.
And folk like TSA and ATC have to work regardless.
Doing a lot of travel in a few weeks. Planned ahead with some massive (3 or 4 hour) connections but… yeah.
The VA is the largest healthcare provider in America…
If there’s a shutdown, they all have to keep working and none of them get paid till after the shutdown.
And to get them all paid, other federal workers need to do a bunch of overtime to get it done ASAP.
So it costs even more to pay them what they should have been paid.
It’s disappointing to see so many people act like this is somehow a positive for anyone.
Federal employees will get paid, but it might be delayed.
Which doesn’t help if they are burning through their savings and still need to pay for food and rent.
Any government employee should know to have a govt shutdown plan in place. It’s becoming common.
And they should just use their boostraps to pull themselves up? Also shave their head, grow a beard, and hit the gym?
Yes. Everyone should have savings they can live off of for an extended period of time. Not everyone has that luxury between cost of living, low salary, or just emergencies that drain those savings.
So maybe we can avoid the “it is their own fault if they are inconvenienced” stupidity and acknowledge that a government shut down is bad?
Given present politics, I see asses like Gaetz, MTG and Boebert in the House and Tuberville in the Senate, being fine with not paying our bills.
Yeah…. That’s not a holiday.
Jokes like these make it seem less not-okay for these asshats to fail at basic responsibilities just because fucking with the budget is a way to stick it to the democrat in office.
The reality is the financial stress imposed by people who are doing vital work fucks them over and leads to brain drain for the private sector. Federal employees deserve financial stability- or at least, not getting their paychecks dicked around with because some asshat wants to be obstructionist.
Federal employees will see it as one, free paid leave.
Nothing better than a free ‘paid’ leave when you still have to show up for work, don’t actually get paid, and can’t pay your rent! The very definition of vacation!
Not everyone will get free leave, but most will. Blame the Republicans, it’s their fault.
My entire Command (and most of the rest of the DoD) are considered “excepted”, which means we’re still required to show up and work. The only silver lining is that the Government Employees Fair Treatment Act was passed in 2019, which guarantees that we will get back pay (and this still doesn’t help everyone living paycheck to paycheck). Before that, it was actually an open question if we’d even be paid for the work done during the shutdown.
The law already says DoD gets paid. That was put in place awhile back.
