Medical professionals warn it is ‘deeply sinister’ to test women for abortion drugs
I had no idea it was this bad in the UK. Fucking hell.
Well fuck. Before I saw the URL I assumed this was the US…
Give it a year…
There are already some southern states that will test and prosecute for miscarriages, especially if they suspect drug use is involved.
Brittney Poolaw in Oklahoma was the most recent publicized case of this, but at least 1200 cases have been recorded in the past 20 years or so.
But, now that so many states are banning abortions, and by way of that abortion drugs, we’ll absolutely see a huge uptick soon enough.
Texas and others are trying to ban traveling for it too
Norsefire was supposed to be satire goddammit. Satire!
Right-wing political philosophy is becoming so authoritarian that we’re really harassing people who just lost their pregnancy, treating them like criminals until proven otherwise.
Woman must be punished! Sexual impurity cannot be tolerated. How else will we control them and make them subservient.
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The UK doesn’t have Republicans. They have Tories
We do have Republicans, but they want to abolish the monarchy rather than abolish freedom for anyone who isn’t a wealthy, straight, white man.
Cops trying to further victimize victims anytime they get the chance.
Did something bad happen to you? Don’t fucking tell the cops and don’t seek any help because people are awful and want to make you as miserable as possible whenever they can. That’s the unfortunate reality we live in.
And we wonder why noone wants to have kids…
Welcome to how Black people feel forever
If you’re wondering why people don’t want to have kids you have very serious medical condition and should have the infected part of your brain removed immediately.
Why?
Because
Because why?
Because why?!?!
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I was about to get really mad and rant about Republicans then I saw the .UK,
This stuff isn’t just American insanity it’s everywhere? Why does this world get worse in my eyes every day…
Because politicians and the media figured out that the easiest way to get people to watch/vote was to appeal to their most basic hatreds and fears, and to even create new ones. Essentially imagine human manipulation as a game, and the game has been solved already. Now this can be countered by teaching people how to actually think for themselves and form their own opinions, but we constantly try and reduce access to education in the world. Were kind of just fucked until the aftermath of WW3 imo.
it’s everywhere?
It’s not in South Africa - abortion hasn’t been politicized… yet. So that is nice. But, on the other hand, we are being privatized and deregulated into oblivion - which isn’t.
I’m sorry to hear that, hope the whole world can grow up one day.
Stress from climate collapse is making people pick at old wounds to feel better, that’s all.
Trust me when I say police should have absolutely nothing to do with anything healthcare related. They shouldn’t be making decisions about bodily autonomy. They shouldn’t be ordering blood work. None of it. Stay in your Fucking lane.
If you want to be a doctor go to medical school.
Or become a politician!
The only thing in my opinion that should allow on duty police in should be to guard high risk patients/At the entry as security.
Confiscating their phones and testing their bodily fluids… to try and jail them for something they did with their own body. Sick fucks
Keep in mind not every lost pregnancy is a choice. They are also trying to jail some of them for a personal tragedy they experienced. You have a spontaneous miscarriage and the doctor prescribes misoprostol to help with the process, then some asshat tries to throw you in jail because Jebus told him to.
My wife had a spontaneous abortion at week 11, we went for the second scan they found no heart beat and they sent us home… what happened in the following hours was fucking horrendous. I couldn’t imagine after that some copper wanting to come around for a blood test and to seize her phone, honestly my reaction would probably get me arrested.
honestly my reaction would probably get me arrested.
My 2024 bingo card has “cop beong shot by distraught husband” on it, and I’m really surprised it doesn’t happen a lot more. There was a shooting at a doctor’s office in Tulsa that was sort of the same thing.
Shootings are bad. Nobody argues that. That’s why we shouldn’t be giving people a reason. But noooo, women having sex makes baby jeeezuz cry.
Yes, the point to expansively criminalizing this sort of thing is that they then get to prosecute who they want, at their discretion. The lesson is always ‘know your place’ and it’s why these ghouls should never have power
Fascism is spreading across the world.
Is abortion illegal in the UK? I know they have some things backwards, but I thought the US led the world on the insanity of divide on this particular topic.
The US is actually better than the UK on a number of issues. America is a better place to live than Europe on the whole.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country
Top 10 Countries* with the Highest Quality of Life, mid-2023 - Numbeo
Luxembourg (200.1) (tie)
Netherlands (200.1) (tie)
Iceland (191.1)
Denmark (190.6)
Finland (188.1)
Switzerland (185.8)
Oman (184.8)
Austria (183.3)
Norway (182.7)
Spain (177.7)Nine of the ten top countries are European. The US isn’t even on the list.
The article shows several different lists from other sources and the US doesn’t appear in ANY of the top 10 lists.
No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!
Everyone has access to free abortion in the UK up to 24 weeks into the pregnancy.
Evidence suggests otherwise
What evidence?
Am I missing something?
Abortions are still deemed a criminal act in England, Scotland and Wales under the 1967 Abortion Act.
The Abortion Act 1967 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that legalised abortion in Great Britian on certain grounds by registered practitioners, and regulated the tax-paid provision of such medical practices through the National Health Service (NHS)
The key word there is it’s legalized on certain grounds and by registered practitioners.
So there’s probably a time frame when it’s allowed, or a preceding incident like rape or incest, and it can only be performed by a registered physician.
Under a law like the, it would still be a crime to use medications to induce a miscarriage of your own desire.
It’s all bullshit, but the UK has a lot of things where is technically legal to do something, as long as you’re willing to submit yourself to close government scrutiny.
No one was ordering their own abortifacients online in 1967, the rules were to outlaw “backstreet” abortions.
I don’t know what the limit is, but yeah there’s a cut-off for when a pregnancy can be terminated without medical necessity. When there is medically necessary it can be performed later.
Either way the procedure is available for free on the NHS.
While I think the rules are sound, you’d think the police would have learned from the disgraceful treatment of the mothers who were prosecuted - and subsequently had those convictions quashed - due to SIDS
Of course there’s a timeframe or circumstances, they are writing as if it’s illegal, which it isn’t.
Yes…the rest of the article where they explain, in fair detail, the points that you’re not understanding, or… missing.
Awe you mean to tell me all of the detail isnt in the headline and i have to read the entire thing?
Yeah thanks, I read it, hence why I quoted from it.
I am happy with it, provided they also test and prosecute partners for using Viagra.
Equality bitches
Ya. This is what America deserves. You won’t like hearing it but this is the find out stage after fucking around for years.
They let tik tok tell them what’s important to them, so now you’ve got young people cheering for terrorists halfway across the world while their rights are being stripped at home.
This is exactly as planned and Americans won’t do a damn thing about it because they’ll get distracted by the next viral dance or dead gorilla. RIP Harambe.
This is for the UK
Doesn’t change my position.
Way to double down on your terrible take when confronted with your blatant ignorance. Pound sand, you utter bellend
The article and the events it covers are from the UK. You should probably read the article before commenting on it. I also highly recommend never trusting an Independent headline at face value; they’re infrequently backed up by the body of the article. This is a rare exception.
I’ve started to make a habit of reading every article I click entirely before reading let alone contributing comments. Now I see social in a whole new lens… the conversations… Nobody reads the articles.
Omfg the Internet is an allegory for Penthouse
The Independent was that trigger for me in 2016. I kept seeing headlines that were outrageous and fit my perspective. I’d get called on it and have to read the article only to find out it was pure clickbait. Often the article supported the opposite perspective, especially if you followed its sources. I wasn’t used to that, especially from papers of record. Usually blog posts that get big in the tech space don’t make outrageous claims they can’t back up.
I had The Independent filtered on Reddit for years. It’s the only QoL feature I regularly miss from Reddit clients. Once Lemmy apps add domain filters I’ll be back at Reddit client levels of functionality.
When lemmings hate America so much they don’t even read the article before spewing propaganda.
