• Ethalis@jlai.lu
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    Placing cops in front of a bathroom just because a trans woman said she would go wash her hands there should sound crazy to anyone. It’s sad that it’s apparently just normal now

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      Putting people into jail for using a supposed wrong bathroom to wash hands is just ridiculous even without considering anything transgender.

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      I would never be a cop, but even as a pig, I can’t imagine getting that assignment and not asking if that was really what the community needed from me that day. And a whole fucking group for one 20yo washing her hands? How embarrassing for them.

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        The Nazis didn’t have a vast historical record that illustrates the dangers of dehumanizing and imprisoning groups of peoples, and violently smashing protests for fascism; what excuse do these American cops and ICE agents have? I have to conclude that those who participate want this.

        Should we be held to higher ethical standards than the Germans of the past? We have a greater awareness of past atrocities and a deeper understanding of their consequences, and contemporary societies are expected to adhere to more stringent ethical guidelines and uphold human rights

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      So the thing to do now is to announce where you’re going to wash your hands to the police and then just not show up.

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    Relevant facts:

    • she self identifies as a “moderate conservative”, also identifying as a “centrist” who cares about “family values”
    • she is a devout Catholic
    • she lives in Illinois and traveled to Florida just to do this
    • before going to Florida, she sent letters to lawmakers stating her intention to break the law, including when and where she would and a photo of herself (police were thus posted at the location and time she indicated, hence why she was arrested)
    • she explicitly identifies as not a “political activist”
    • she is breaking the law because she thinks it is wrong (she is engaging in civil disobedience), though she did not expect to actually be arrested
    • she didn’t consult any legal or advocacy groups before doing this
    • she was arrested upon going into the restroom and washing her hands, after cops posted at the bathroom told her not to; she was held in the men’s ward of the Leon County Detention Facility overnight, and she faces 60 days of incarceration if convicted
    • she is back in Illinois but will have to fly back to Florida for hearings
    • she didn’t expect to be arrested and regrets doing it

    source: Tampa Bay Times (archive.ph link)

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      Idiot: ✓

      Identifies as moderate conservative, but is mostly apolitical: ✓

      What a surprise.

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    Peacefully disobeying the law is not a good idea under fascism. This was a brave, albeit really stupid, thing to do. I hope this woman makes it out okay.

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      as stupid as a trans woman entering the men’s bathroom and being ridiculed/assaulted? there’s really no winning for trans people

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        She didn’t do anything wrong; but regardless, if you’re going to scale the wall to go into the lion’s den at the zoo definitely don’t announce it to them via megaphone first.

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    I mean she thought of politics as something philosophical that doesn’t actually effect people so I’m not sure how someone this sheltered exists while also being trans. But it’s fascinating in a horrifyingly stupid way. It explains why she really thought they wouldn’t actually arrest her.

    She’s actually not mentally prepared to do prison time so I hope they figure something out.

    Florida ignoring her legal name change is goofy though.

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      Probably why some are non voters to, they don’t think actually affects them.

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        It’s beyond stupid though, laws actually exist and we live in functioning society because of them (lol). Laws are created through politics. This isn’t a hard concept to grasp, does she think if she speeds she’ll never get a ticket? That it’s just in movies?

        Very strange, scary honestly

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          Some people really do just don’t think about it much. There’s also plenty examples of stuff like “we can’t legalize weed, it’s illegal drugs!” and then completely missing the contradiction

          I don’t really know how they think the world works, like they think that laws are just part of the natural order or things? And so politics barely mean anything? Or is just symbolic? I dunno

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            Some people do think that the society we exist in is just part of the natural order and that it’s vain to try to change it or even care about it. I had an ex that was like that: whenever I tried talking about politics with her she would just go “What’s the point of talking about it, we can’t change anything anyway”

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              It’s really weird honestly, considering that, you know, literally all of society is built up by humans

              Have they just never read any history at all?

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                  I guess people heard people say that we have “reached the end of history”, and accepted it without question

                  Seems like history is very much still alive and well

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    All I can say about this is that it’s a courageous act.

    I genuinely don’t know whether it was well considered.