know who you won’t hear a peep from? all the stupid cucks that think renting is better. This is what we’ve been trying to tell those morons. “but i just put in a ticket and they come and fix it” or
be an adult take 5 mins to diagnose the problem and order the $10 part and do the 20min labor yourself for a change. go to a library join an apprenticeship. Learn. the day you stop learning is the day they Own You.
I agree with learning or joining an apprenticeship but totally disagree with the sentiment “be an adult, take 5 mins to diagnose and 20 mins labour.” Even the tenner for parts is presumptuous.
Just to be clear as well, Im not one of those stupid cucks you mentioned, I just know DIY repairs might not be as straight forward as you make it out. Of course internet access would make it easier, some people don’t have the capacity to learn things that way. Aside from that some repairs require wildly expensive equipment to complete it.
You basically just generalised putting up a shelf or something for making any repair you want at home instead of asking for help which is kinda crazy because the average person is a lot more dangerous than we give them credit for.
All it takes is for someone to decide that an electrical problem doesn’t need a professional, do it wrong, and burn their house down, and their neighbours or maybe a block of flats.
Sounds like that person would then have to take responsibility for their actions if damage or harm were to happen. what type of individual would you say that is? I said Learn, not to be stupid and go blazing into a project especially with risk like electricity. i didn’t generalize anyone but those unwilling to do, or accomplish for themselves so they pay people, like me, to charge them $110/hr for labor. :D
you have access to a library of knowledge and thousands of forums with experts to ask directly. Lemmy and reddit are more than just people disagreeing. You must have some interest or hobby. i promise you if you look for those Threads on Lemmy you’ll find a welcoming group. The Smart Phone is only as Smart as its user. Look It Up. Do Due Diligence. Do not try risky repairs. I never had a father but damn you guys, do i need to start a boys and girls club? you seem awfully ready to fight ‘doing the work’ because of, excuses.
I’ve got plenty of experience in trades and can do all jobs myself. It’s very presumptuous of you, to think I was talking about myself but so far you’ve made presumptions about people in general.
Maybe you need the due diligence to realise just because you can, even with a bullshit cocky attitude, not everyone can. Some people have disabilities or learning difficulties (or both) that prevent them from “being an adult” as you so nicely put it. So instead of recognising people with these difficulties you just decide to belittle them as useless children that need us to carry them.
Here’s an idea, look it up, maybe you’ll learn something. What’s more likely is that you’ll fight doing the research because of excuses.
nothing of value was gained from that diatribe but hey, good job with the 3 paragraph excuse. be an adult do your due diligence and seriously with the parroting? Breh. ill gladly think for you since you can’t think of new words in a debate :D
let me show you how to play someone off, keyboard cat.
You hate yourself and your lack of technical abilities that you decide to come after people like me, who knows what they are doing, offers to help and instead of being a decent human being you whine, bemoan, attack. Have you tried Actually changing the environment around you? ever? doubtful.
See. try something like that, with poise, say it with P R I D E in Y O U R - S O U L :D
I love the fact that you think you know anything about my technical abilities or self image. The ignorance is palpable.
I never noticed you offer any help either, in fact, I’d say your initial comment lacked decency by belittling people who aren’t independent. I just brought it up that people who need assistance are still adults as much as you and infantilising them isn’t the decent thing to do but your ego didn’t like that.
i said with soul. very much lacking. You’re getting close. i like the personal jab like you think my ego has anything to do with your failures as a professional. But …sure, i’ll be your Villain. what’s my Disney Name? :)
I’ll take the bait! I definitely wouldn’t say renting is BETTER, but your comment definitely exposes some privileged views. Not everyone has the skills, competency, time, or cash on hand to manage their own repairs. There’s also other advantages to renting. Most obviously is the fact that it’s a lot easier to move - signing a new lease is so much less of a hassle than dealing with all of the things involved with selling and buying a home. This was somewhat mitigated by having equity, but right now it can take 5-10 years to have positive equity in a home.
Don’t get me wrong, the article is absolutely dystopian, dude’s paying 1400 a month for a shoebox. There is a lot that’s ridiculous about his situation, but to throw out all of the actual advantages renting can have is as disingenuous of a take as if I were to say buying is a gamble. Call it copium, or say I’m a cuck, whatever but it’s definitely not a clear-cut victory on either side
what im stabbing at, that this article points out. is that everyone is so willing to give up control and ownership and now are like “wtf why is everything so expensive” because you go and pay that ~$2000 rent instead of living in your car and the gym for a year or two. The world owes us nothing, and the world stops for no one. if you are paying money and are happy with the result, good. but i bet you all have a story where you paid and didn’t get what you wanted or something else entirely. People say Privileged. I was born to an Orphanage with no parents. the fuq??? If i wanted something in life I learned it and Got it…stop being so dependent. im 35, im not a boomer. im an adult living in this retarded shakespearean joke trying to make it to tomorrow and you are all busy slapping at the tree leaves hoping to kill its root.
Same. The restrictions on mobility freedom aren’t worth it for me, especially when things like local amenities and crime are so variable.
As an example, been living here for half a decade - buses have gone from every 8min to every 20-30min (and every hour on weekends) and crime has gone through the roof - law enforcement regularly drops by for my external security footage for everything from theft, assault, and homicide. Bus stop that was just a 30 second walk from my door was moved 3 mins away. There are many, many more reasons too, but those are the only ones really worth mentioning.
If I “owned” the house I’d be stuck, who would want to buy it for possibly less than the bank loan for me to move on? Not to mention the complicated process of getting that sorted
Also the idea of working at the same company for 30 years is ludicrous these days. Hell even staying in the same city is tough. Why in the world would I buy a house with a 30 year mortgage and nice short commute to work when its extremely likely that two years from now I’ll be at another company an hour and a half on the other side of town?
The price someone would pay a repairperson to fix things is already factored into rent. If a homeowner didn’t have the time/energy to fix the thing, the homeowner could just hire their own repairperson and be in the same situation, except not me renting.
And your rent will continue to go up and up and up per Lease because of contractors like me. fleecing apartment complexes for all they are worth, and they pay too. Because they have all of you to pay them…
renting is preferable for a lot of folks, exclusively having the option to rent being bad doesnt automatically make purchasing a house better in every scenario
be an adult take 5 mins to diagnose the problem and order the $10 part and do the 20min labor yourself for a change
Yeah I tried to do that. I figured out the gaskets on the toilet had worn out and were leaking. Turned into about $200 in parts and consumables as I had to dremel off the bolts due to bad corrosion and replaced other parts that were in bad shape while I was at it. I’d done my research, quadruple checked the manuals and resources. Guess what happened? I had some leaks on the new gaskets and a new leak on the water intake hose.
I also took the trap out of the sink to clear a clog because it was full of gunk. I put it back in wrong and didn’t realize it until months later so now the problem has grown significantly and the floor is damaged
I’m just paying a plumber to fix it because every time I’ve tried to fix plumbing I’ve made it significantly worse and at greater cost than just calling a plumber, no matter how much I try to make sure I’ve got the right tools, supplies and process.
Not everyone is handy, so not everyone can fix it themselves. This is why humans specialized, not so much because not everyone could do it, but because some people are so much better at certain things that its better to let people do more of what they’re good at and let them get better at that then to have everyone be moderately okay at everything.
I feel like plumbing and electrical work are things you should just pay professionals to do. The risk of things going very sideways is just too high for me.
if only you knew how easy it was to learn plumbing and electric. i can teach it to you in a day, and have you mastered in a week on site. And I’m one of the contractors who fleece you idiots. Nothing is gate kept. Nothing. only your desire to Learn and Try and Practice is what’s keeping you back. if you want to accept the limits you set for yourself, sure. But I’ll keep improving and trying to reach my next plateau.
And no one’s keeping you from growing your own crop, baking your own bread, making your own clothes, programming your own software, building your own website, etc.
But nobody’s got time to learn and do everything by themselves. The greatest benefit of living in a society is division of labor so that everyone can specialize in any field. Without that, progress would not be possible and we’d still be cavepeople each doing their own shit.
Please don’t judge people on what stuff they want to do themselves and what they want to pay others to do.
I am 100% with you on plumbing. Doesn’t matter how well prepared I am or how simple the job. It always goes sideways on me.
I can build a datacenter from the ground up as long as there’s no plumbing involved.
If you can dodge a data center you can dodge plumbing. Check this Out, first Lesson Shit goes down hill. elevation is not your friend and for christ sakes use the proper pvc glue. It’s not rocket science and even that is simple; it’s a one way explosion. cmon now. i presume with your skill set you have a computer science degree…So do i, i started the same as all of you, whining about it, then i took my big internet brain and put it to good use. computer science is harder than Plumbing, Electric and Construction Combined. if you can conceptualize code, it should be retard level easy for you to see something mechanically and solve it. i believe in you, even if you don’t.
know who you won’t hear a peep from? all the stupid cucks that think renting is better. This is what we’ve been trying to tell those morons. “but i just put in a ticket and they come and fix it” or be an adult take 5 mins to diagnose the problem and order the $10 part and do the 20min labor yourself for a change. go to a library join an apprenticeship. Learn. the day you stop learning is the day they Own You.
I agree with learning or joining an apprenticeship but totally disagree with the sentiment “be an adult, take 5 mins to diagnose and 20 mins labour.” Even the tenner for parts is presumptuous.
Just to be clear as well, Im not one of those stupid cucks you mentioned, I just know DIY repairs might not be as straight forward as you make it out. Of course internet access would make it easier, some people don’t have the capacity to learn things that way. Aside from that some repairs require wildly expensive equipment to complete it.
You basically just generalised putting up a shelf or something for making any repair you want at home instead of asking for help which is kinda crazy because the average person is a lot more dangerous than we give them credit for.
All it takes is for someone to decide that an electrical problem doesn’t need a professional, do it wrong, and burn their house down, and their neighbours or maybe a block of flats.
Very true about repairs. There is so much truth in this video
Sounds like that person would then have to take responsibility for their actions if damage or harm were to happen. what type of individual would you say that is? I said Learn, not to be stupid and go blazing into a project especially with risk like electricity. i didn’t generalize anyone but those unwilling to do, or accomplish for themselves so they pay people, like me, to charge them $110/hr for labor. :D
you have access to a library of knowledge and thousands of forums with experts to ask directly. Lemmy and reddit are more than just people disagreeing. You must have some interest or hobby. i promise you if you look for those Threads on Lemmy you’ll find a welcoming group. The Smart Phone is only as Smart as its user. Look It Up. Do Due Diligence. Do not try risky repairs. I never had a father but damn you guys, do i need to start a boys and girls club? you seem awfully ready to fight ‘doing the work’ because of, excuses.
I’ve got plenty of experience in trades and can do all jobs myself. It’s very presumptuous of you, to think I was talking about myself but so far you’ve made presumptions about people in general.
Maybe you need the due diligence to realise just because you can, even with a bullshit cocky attitude, not everyone can. Some people have disabilities or learning difficulties (or both) that prevent them from “being an adult” as you so nicely put it. So instead of recognising people with these difficulties you just decide to belittle them as useless children that need us to carry them.
Here’s an idea, look it up, maybe you’ll learn something. What’s more likely is that you’ll fight doing the research because of excuses.
nothing of value was gained from that diatribe but hey, good job with the 3 paragraph excuse. be an adult do your due diligence and seriously with the parroting? Breh. ill gladly think for you since you can’t think of new words in a debate :D
That’s a shame.
Thats it? a dismissive cowardly statement?
let me show you how to play someone off, keyboard cat.
You hate yourself and your lack of technical abilities that you decide to come after people like me, who knows what they are doing, offers to help and instead of being a decent human being you whine, bemoan, attack. Have you tried Actually changing the environment around you? ever? doubtful.
See. try something like that, with poise, say it with P R I D E in Y O U R - S O U L :D
I love the fact that you think you know anything about my technical abilities or self image. The ignorance is palpable.
I never noticed you offer any help either, in fact, I’d say your initial comment lacked decency by belittling people who aren’t independent. I just brought it up that people who need assistance are still adults as much as you and infantilising them isn’t the decent thing to do but your ego didn’t like that.
i said with soul. very much lacking. You’re getting close. i like the personal jab like you think my ego has anything to do with your failures as a professional. But …sure, i’ll be your Villain. what’s my Disney Name? :)
I’ll take the bait! I definitely wouldn’t say renting is BETTER, but your comment definitely exposes some privileged views. Not everyone has the skills, competency, time, or cash on hand to manage their own repairs. There’s also other advantages to renting. Most obviously is the fact that it’s a lot easier to move - signing a new lease is so much less of a hassle than dealing with all of the things involved with selling and buying a home. This was somewhat mitigated by having equity, but right now it can take 5-10 years to have positive equity in a home.
Don’t get me wrong, the article is absolutely dystopian, dude’s paying 1400 a month for a shoebox. There is a lot that’s ridiculous about his situation, but to throw out all of the actual advantages renting can have is as disingenuous of a take as if I were to say buying is a gamble. Call it copium, or say I’m a cuck, whatever but it’s definitely not a clear-cut victory on either side
Edit: motivated -> mitigated. Thanks autocorrect.
what im stabbing at, that this article points out. is that everyone is so willing to give up control and ownership and now are like “wtf why is everything so expensive” because you go and pay that ~$2000 rent instead of living in your car and the gym for a year or two. The world owes us nothing, and the world stops for no one. if you are paying money and are happy with the result, good. but i bet you all have a story where you paid and didn’t get what you wanted or something else entirely. People say Privileged. I was born to an Orphanage with no parents. the fuq??? If i wanted something in life I learned it and Got it…stop being so dependent. im 35, im not a boomer. im an adult living in this retarded shakespearean joke trying to make it to tomorrow and you are all busy slapping at the tree leaves hoping to kill its root.
The bank says I’m too poor for a mortgage so I pay more than a mortgage to rent a studio.
I have no desire to own real estate even though I can totally afford it, AMA
Same. The restrictions on mobility freedom aren’t worth it for me, especially when things like local amenities and crime are so variable.
As an example, been living here for half a decade - buses have gone from every 8min to every 20-30min (and every hour on weekends) and crime has gone through the roof - law enforcement regularly drops by for my external security footage for everything from theft, assault, and homicide. Bus stop that was just a 30 second walk from my door was moved 3 mins away. There are many, many more reasons too, but those are the only ones really worth mentioning.
If I “owned” the house I’d be stuck, who would want to buy it for possibly less than the bank loan for me to move on? Not to mention the complicated process of getting that sorted
Also the idea of working at the same company for 30 years is ludicrous these days. Hell even staying in the same city is tough. Why in the world would I buy a house with a 30 year mortgage and nice short commute to work when its extremely likely that two years from now I’ll be at another company an hour and a half on the other side of town?
What a world huh.
The price someone would pay a repairperson to fix things is already factored into rent. If a homeowner didn’t have the time/energy to fix the thing, the homeowner could just hire their own repairperson and be in the same situation, except not me renting.
And your rent will continue to go up and up and up per Lease because of contractors like me. fleecing apartment complexes for all they are worth, and they pay too. Because they have all of you to pay them…
there should be an option for both
renting is preferable for a lot of folks, exclusively having the option to rent being bad doesnt automatically make purchasing a house better in every scenario
Yeah I tried to do that. I figured out the gaskets on the toilet had worn out and were leaking. Turned into about $200 in parts and consumables as I had to dremel off the bolts due to bad corrosion and replaced other parts that were in bad shape while I was at it. I’d done my research, quadruple checked the manuals and resources. Guess what happened? I had some leaks on the new gaskets and a new leak on the water intake hose.
I also took the trap out of the sink to clear a clog because it was full of gunk. I put it back in wrong and didn’t realize it until months later so now the problem has grown significantly and the floor is damaged
I’m just paying a plumber to fix it because every time I’ve tried to fix plumbing I’ve made it significantly worse and at greater cost than just calling a plumber, no matter how much I try to make sure I’ve got the right tools, supplies and process.
Not everyone is handy, so not everyone can fix it themselves. This is why humans specialized, not so much because not everyone could do it, but because some people are so much better at certain things that its better to let people do more of what they’re good at and let them get better at that then to have everyone be moderately okay at everything.
I feel like plumbing and electrical work are things you should just pay professionals to do. The risk of things going very sideways is just too high for me.
if only you knew how easy it was to learn plumbing and electric. i can teach it to you in a day, and have you mastered in a week on site. And I’m one of the contractors who fleece you idiots. Nothing is gate kept. Nothing. only your desire to Learn and Try and Practice is what’s keeping you back. if you want to accept the limits you set for yourself, sure. But I’ll keep improving and trying to reach my next plateau.
And no one’s keeping you from growing your own crop, baking your own bread, making your own clothes, programming your own software, building your own website, etc.
But nobody’s got time to learn and do everything by themselves. The greatest benefit of living in a society is division of labor so that everyone can specialize in any field. Without that, progress would not be possible and we’d still be cavepeople each doing their own shit.
Please don’t judge people on what stuff they want to do themselves and what they want to pay others to do.
I don’t judge. I Charge $110 by the hour :D
I am 100% with you on plumbing. Doesn’t matter how well prepared I am or how simple the job. It always goes sideways on me. I can build a datacenter from the ground up as long as there’s no plumbing involved.
If you can dodge a data center you can dodge plumbing. Check this Out, first Lesson Shit goes down hill. elevation is not your friend and for christ sakes use the proper pvc glue. It’s not rocket science and even that is simple; it’s a one way explosion. cmon now. i presume with your skill set you have a computer science degree…So do i, i started the same as all of you, whining about it, then i took my big internet brain and put it to good use. computer science is harder than Plumbing, Electric and Construction Combined. if you can conceptualize code, it should be retard level easy for you to see something mechanically and solve it. i believe in you, even if you don’t.
Maybe you should Practice. it makes perfect. :D