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    6 hours ago

    I wonder when it will be enough for Tesla investors. Clearly so far they are OK with both his behavior and the impact on stock price.

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    13 hours ago

    Who is still buying this joke of a car with fart sounds for turn signals?

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      My wife leased the first electric car in her company 10 years ago. We have driven the BMW i3, Hyundai kona electric, Skoda enyaq, and model 3. The last 2 are our current daily drivers.

      The i3 brought the electric amazingness, the Kona brought range and more practicality. Model 3, while being standard range, brought an infotainment system that has no equal and is just very good to drive with even more range.We’ve had it for 2 years with zero issues. I did install a hud android screen to have a waze, but i rarely use it anymore. And the rims scratch by even looking at a curb. I thought the enyaq 85 L&K full option would blow the model 3 out of the water, but it just doesn’t. It is more practical (i’m skiing right now in the alps with 2 adults and 2 children and no need for a roof or towhook box). However, it doesn’t come close my friend’s model y in pure storage space. It also drives like a shoebox, and tesla’s 1 pedal drive is just better.

      While the support from tesla is at times really bad, this is also due to leasing companies not being onboard with tesla’s full digital approach. At the same time, the support from VW group on skoda is not much better. Hyundai’s support we never needed as they just don’t break. BMW service is very good if your leasing pays for it. Otherwise, you are just a money milking cow.

      Now, in 2 years, i need to lease again, and as long as musk is at the reigns, it will not be a tesla. Changing his ways is not enough. He needs to go and fully be out of the company management tree before i would consider tesla again

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      9 hours ago

      It was a status symbol like apple phones. Nordic countries have some of the highest iPhone percentages outside america.

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      They have pretty awesome powertrains and the infotainment is decent. I can sorta see the allure. That said, I’d rather have the EQE sedan, the i5 wagon or maybe the EX90 if I was looking for an EV right now. We make a lot of decent cars here in Europe (okay I haven’t really looked where any of those are assembled, but they’re Euro companies at least).

      As for the fart sounds - honestly that’s one of the better things about the car if you ask me. The engineers had a childish sense of humour, big deal. So do I. I’d be more worried about the somewhat crappy interior quality for the price, or the lack of a speedometer near the driver’s normal field of view.

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        Even if we ignore the muskrat I’m worried about:

        • They fail the first MOT in Denmark.
        • The dash that forces you to look at a screen to operate.
        • The emergency door handles you have to practice finding.
        • The accidents caused by the large engine.

        And then there’s how they service their cars and the OTA updates.

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          I’m gonna agree with you on the middle two points as I can’t be arsed to look up the story about Denmark so I’ll just ignore it, but what’s that about the large motor(s) causing accidents? That sounds more like user error to me. To Tesla’s credit, they even have a “chill mode” acceleration setting that makes it way less sensitive.

          I’ll admit I’ve only ever driven one Model Y LR, but even on the full power setting, while it had impressive acceleration, it never felt like I was going to kill myself by looking at the accelerator pedal wrong.

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        Yeah nobody beats then on range per euro, but luckily a lot of people think there’s more to a car than just that. They are also known for very confrontational customer service and refusing to even comment when confronted by the media.

        We went with the Polestar 2 and Cupra Born.
        The i4 m50 is also a cool option in the same-ish price range.
        EX90 is the «dream» car, but it’s too costly. Maybe a used Polestar 3 in the future. It’s the same platform, just a bit smaller.

        EX90 is built in the US for western markets, China for Asia.
        I5 and EQE in Germany for western markets, China for Asia.

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          They are also known for very confrontational customer service

          In China, a customer who complained about their quality got sued by them and now owes them a huge amount of money. For talking about something that was a factual issue.

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          Huh, I thought the Polestar 2 was a lot more than it apparently is. I thought it was near EX90 pricing.

          Yeah I agree, I want more from a car than just efficiency and power. Most cars I’ve owned, the interior is genuinely a nice place to be. The marques so far (and there have been multiple of some) have included Audi, BMW, MB, one Porsche, a Chrysler and now a Subaru. Minus the one MB that I got preowned at 3 years, they’ve all been over a decade old, yet they’ve felt pretty damn nice to sit in. The Chrysler (300M, not to be confused with 300 or 300C) and the Porsche (well optioned Cayenne S 955) felt pretty special I’d even say. Those two cars are the ones I miss the most, but their fuel economy stings hard. Admittedly the Chrysler with its V6 and 4 speed auto was still less thirsty than the Subaru.

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      Seeing as nobody ever seems to use their turn signals, no one probably noticed that option who bought this car.