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      • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
        19·
        22 days ago

        It’s not fair, you’re baiting us

        (I literally just thought to myself “found the vegan” before reading your username)

        • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
          115·
          22 days ago

          It’s not even bait, y’all just predictable with the same exact phrase every time. I mean… you’re not even the first person today. If I can beat everyone to the punch before ya finish thinking it, then is it still fun to say?

          Idk. Feels like a Chuck Norris joke at this point.

          • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
            83·
            22 days ago

            Well I thought it, I wasn’t planning on saying anything until I saw your username and figured you were playful about it.

            But do you really think it’s non-vegans who know what black salt (or whatever other reference you make in your comments that typically “outs” you) is without looking it up? It’s probably mostly people who are also vegan and feel kinship that they’d like to point out. That’s why I wrote my comment at least 🤷

            • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
              44·
              22 days ago

              Well sure, I could tell and appreciate your friendly tone. But you also went out of your way to specify it, because frankly no vegan appreciates that response. It’s a thought terminating cliche that is functionally used to dismiss.

              I am doing my best be playful about it’s overuse, but in truth it’s born out of frustration. Started using this handle about 3-4 years ago when I was tired of getting heavily down voted while “found the vegan” response was unanimously upvoted. The implication being “Yeah but do you care what a vegan thinks?”.

              Fundamentally, you’re right tho. Black salt isn’t common and its more of a if ya know, ya know situation. I just disagree that saying something other vegans would recognize is inherently unfair bait for non-vegans. I’m not preaching or pushing veganism, just existing as one.

              • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                22 days ago

                No, I was joking about the bait, kind of a “you’re making it too easy,” but I don’t mind when people say “found the vegan” to me. What follows is longer than intended because I hyper focused on it.

                Tl;dr: I take that type of statement differently depending on the context, but I wasn’t trying to dismiss you.

                I would also personally not mind if someone said “found the x” for anything that applies to me, unless it was inherently a negative thing or something I’m ashamed of, and I just assumed others were the same. Like, I’m an immigrant in Germany and I’d be pretty upset if someone responded to me speaking German and said “found the American,” but that’s because I put in a lot of work to lose my accent. If they said it after I showed up to an appointment fewer than ten minutes early, I’d understand that they were intending to insult me and I’d feel put off, even though I think five minutes early is perfectly fine.

                For qualities I’m not ashamed of, I think of it either as neutral or as an affirmation that what I’m saying or doing is in line with who I am. If I were talking about how mind blowing it is to live in a 500 year old house and someone said “found the American,” I’d probably laugh and agree, and if they said that after I said something about wearing mismatched socks and not caring what people think, I’d feel positive that that’s a known stereotype about Americans.

                I’m autistic though, so I might be the outlier. I also completely miss passive aggression most of the time, so maybe people actually do intend to insult me when they say that, but I think it’s silly to view those negatively, so I take it about the same as I do when my dad says a political position I support is communism- still a win in my book. I’m pretty happy with my interpretation, even if it’s wrong, lol.

                • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  5·
                  21 days ago

                  Well I appreciate and have nothing but love for ya. For what it’s worth, I don’t feel ashamed of being vegan, quite the opposite since I literally have a V tattoo. With hindsight I can see that I overread and overthrought this exchange. But in my experience, it’s rare to have veganism brought up outside vegan communities as a positive thing so I tend to go defensive.

                  I’m an immigrant in Germany and I’d be pretty upset if someone responded to me speaking German and said “found the Americanz"

                  I understand completely, and I’m sorry that’s a reality for you to worry about. I actually have a whole vector that’s very different but also very simmiliar to this. As a trans woman, “found the X” is occasionally applied a by shitty folk if/when I talk about gender online, and several time in real life public areas. At a certain point, I know logically it’s immposible to win everyone over and I need to find serenity despite it all, but it often feels like no matter how much grace you can extend to someone who wishes to harass before it just becomes easier to assume everyone is harassing so.

                  But this is all on me. Thank you for this exchange, I’m sorry if it caused you stress and it’s my fault for initially assuming the worst of you. Context is almost always the biggest factor and i should’ve paid more attention to the kind hearted context you’ve displayed here.

                  Although, since I have you… xan I ask you a totally random tangent? Is Germany as vegan friendly as I hear? I know multiple vegan folk that rave about the regions restaurants and just sorta curious if you’d agree. ☺️

          • chingadera@lemmy.worldEnglish
            72·
            22 days ago

            wth is a vegan? Did y’all just make up new slang for a meme or something? Please explain it to me

            • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
              72·
              22 days ago

              It’s a person who aims to do the least harm to and exploitation of animals practicable. Vegans don’t all agree with each other, but generally they don’t eat any animal products (food waste and somehow honey are common disagreements among vegans), nor would they buy new leather products (some might buy secondhand, but others won’t even hold on to a pair of shoes they bought and wore for years before going vegan).

                • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  3·
                  20 days ago

                  It’s insane to me, how many people think that “bugs” aren’t animals. Sponges or barnacles, I can understand, but everyone knows that mosquitoes feed off of blood and spiders lay eggs, so how is it even a question?

              • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.worldEnglish
                52·
                22 days ago

                Honey because local beekeepers are, in my experience, commited conservationists obsessed with protecting honeybees. Volunteering time to rescue hives, etc. I imagine an argument can be made against industrial production, however.

                • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caEnglish
                  74·
                  21 days ago

                  The correct term is bee enslavers. Honey is for the bees not for the humans to steal and murder their queen.

                • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  42·
                  21 days ago

                  Just to present the other side of hoeny veganism, I don’t consume any out of ethical consistency. Without question beekeepers do far less damage to their animals than cows, pig or chicken ranchers since those end in slaughter. But it’s still a product produced by an animal for a specific purpose in its life cycle. While slaughtering a pig for pork is murder, taking a hives honey is theft. Beekeepers replace it with a sugar water mix instead but as I understand the research that slurry misses many of the core nutrients bees put in to their honey.

                  If someone took food off my plate to replace with a less nutritional and tasty substitute I’d be pissed, so I see no reason to do it to bees. Besides, agavae is cheap, healthier and tastes near identical. Since a readily available susbistute exists, I don’t even miss or care about honey.

                  I would never say someone who eats honey isn’t vegan, but it is a matter of polite disagreement among the community.

        • linkinkampf19@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          21 days ago

          That’s when you make certain at least one egg is hardboiled. Sure, it may still mush up a little, but better than all that yolk though.

          More pockets too.

          • udon@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            20 days ago

            What’s really problematic about this strategy is that the second egg is clearly not a backup. If anything, it improves availability at low latency. As a backup, I recommend a 3-2-1 strategy with at least one egg in a different location.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1219·
      21 days ago

      …or just has autism or something? Sheesh.

      Edit: People downvote me, but this just screams neurodivergence. I say this as someone who is significantly neurodivergent. Just because they’re easily upset by things that don’t upset others does not mean they are even remotely dangerous lmao. That’s an insane conclusion to jump to.

      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        21 days ago

        Down votes are because its far more likely the cause was jealousy than autism.

        Also you seem to have sympathy for the person who’s acting like an asshole in this story. Even if they are autistic, its still shitty and she isnt required to put up with it.

        • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          20 days ago

          I mean, I’m not dismissing the behaviour, and I certainly wouldn’t tolerate it, but to jump to them being dangerous feels wild to me.

    • EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.worldEnglish
      221·
      21 days ago

      So, at one point the evolutionary predecesssor of the chicken must have laid a chicken egg. I respect your right to choose where you die though.

      • lugal@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        21 days ago

        Honestly, I was just joking. For me this is more like the ship of Theseus showing that there is no such thing as a first chicken or a first egg.

              • oo1@lemmings.worldEnglish
                3·
                21 days ago

                Which came first:

                • A chicken or an egg
                • A chicken or the egg
                • The chicken or an egg
                • The chicken or the egg
                • The chicken or its egg ?

                If the definite article is used then it should be clear from the physical or literal context eggsactly which chicken and which egg are the subjects. This makes the answer a simple matter of asking each for its birth certificate.

                If the question has been taken out of context or misquoted - and is now meaningless - well that’s just typical sloppy journalism.

    • tonyn@lemmy.mlEnglish
      9·
      21 days ago

      Hate to be the bearer of bad news but eggs were a thing way before chickens