Former President Donald J. Trump asked the Supreme Court on Monday to pause an appeals court’s ruling rejecting his claim that he is absolutely immune from criminal charges based on his attempts to subvert the 2020 election.

Unless the justices issue a stay while they consider whether to hear his promised appeal, proceedings in the criminal trial, which have been on hold, will resume.

The filing was Mr. Trump’s last-ditch effort to press his claim of total immunity, which has been rejected by two lower courts. The Supreme Court is now poised to determine whether and how fast his federal trial on charges that he tried to subvert the 2020 election will proceed. Unless the justices move quickly, the trial could be pushed into the heart of the 2024 campaign, or even past the election.

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  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    If Trump has absolute immunity for acts committed while president, Biden should order the summary execution of Trump.

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      Don’t be silly. They believe that the president would only have total immunity until they were impeached by Congress. So Biden would also have to execute anyone in Congress that would vote for impeachment. After that, he should be fine. Totally normal democracy in action.

    • gregorum@lemm.ee
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      That would be the most ridiculously stupid thing could do, it would be even more horrible and abhorrent than what Trump has ever threatened.

      So, no.

      What he could do, on the other hand, is unilaterally have him removed from any consideration for public office. And that would be perfectly sufficient. 

      And far more reasonable.

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        Joe Biden could also just revoke Donald Trump’s citizenship, which would then make him ineligible for office, and then deport him from the country. That would be simultaneously effective, and also completely hilarious.

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          Joe Biden could also just revoke Donald Trump’s citizenship

          no, he can’t. there are extremely narrow circumstances under which that can be done, and this situation doesn’t warrant them. and, for, like, a zillion reasons, Biden shouldn’t exercise any extra-legal powers to do so when other options exist. (such as the one I mentioned).

          That would be simultaneously effective, and also completely hilarious.

          not a good enough reason, considering the multitudinous and catastrophic consequences.

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            To be clear, we’re talking about jokes being made about what Biden could do if the supreme Court grants the president unrestricted unilateral total immunity for all actions legal or otherwise.

            So in the event that the president isn’t restricted by the rule of law or liable for the consequences of their actions, there’s a lot of things that Biden could do that would be advantageous for his personal political aims.

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              To be clear, we’re talking about jokes

              ok, so I apologize for missing the context. my bad. (I have withdrawn my previous downvote)

              additionally, since I’m now off work and working my way into a bottle of Jim Beam, I’m out!

              I’m off to shipost star trek memes. good night!

            • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
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              9 months ago

              I came here to say this, but you beat me to the punch while simultaneously defending my internet honor. So, thank you!

        • gregorum@lemm.ee
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          9 months ago

          lmao… I meant to type ‘abhorrent’ but autocorrect had different ideas.

          I fixed it

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      9 months ago

      And he should dispatch Obama to do it, so they have super double immunity

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    I love the fact that he’s not even trying to prove his innocence. Just yeah I did it but I shouldn’t be held accountable because I’m an infallible deity or something.

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      I’m sure they have at least ten other ridiculous arguments to try and waste time before they would even need to argue innocence.

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      Generally, the appeals court is the last stop.

      In saner times, the supreme court usually only steps in when two or more appeals circuits are coming out with different rulings on similar cases.

      Trump pretty much sees the supreme court as his personal hotline.

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      The Supreme Court is the final appeals court, so it makes sense that they can be asked to review cases like this. However, in this case I certainly hope they do the logical thing and pass on hearing this case since the appeals court clearly got it right.

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        This is the second time this question was tossed at SCOTUS. SCOTUS denied hearing the motion the first time around before the trail even began. I’ve yet to hear a convincing argument on why the high court would change their mind on the matter.

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    They have to know that if they reject the sound logic of the lower courts then their heads could be literally on the line, if not from the current president, possibly the next.