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    9 months ago

    Just to clarify the point: Republicans only shriek about issues like transgenderism to put the focus on these non-issues, away from real issues like healthcare, poverty and inequality, war, climate change, etc…

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    9 months ago

    Of course those genitals are important! If they don’t do that, then their god will not magically fix said problems. They themselves are of course powerless to do anything about it. Far too busy lining their and their donors pockets!

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    Meh. The illusion starts to fade at the mention of student debt and totally broken with the word “ecosystems”. Need to dial up the conservative and make it about how jobs don’t pay enough or how much you have to run the AC now days. Also, not sure about the war part being bad in a conservative view, rather it’s that we don’t really win wars anymore.

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    Inflation is out of control. Housing is unaffordable. The healthcare system is broken. Everyone is drowning in student debt. Ecosystems are collapsing. We’re constantly on the brink of war.

    This is a better description of Trump’s presidency than Biden’s, especially right now when inflation is not out of control, and Biden has done everything he can to forgive student loans.

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    9 months ago

    If conservatives want to be a part of the solution, they can be. But they aren’t.

    Newt Gingrich was the last Republican to create policy and even he is problematic.

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      9 months ago

      The only way conservatives can be part of the solution is if they take themselves out of the equation.

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      Newt Gingrich is a hypocritical piece of shit. Worried about the budget but wanted a capital gains tax cut. Worried about ethics but was fine violating basic ethics. Even when presented with evidence that violent crime was down in 2016, he didn’t want to go with the “theoriticians” (aka the facts) but instead went with his gut (aka bullshit). And he is an election denier. Fuck him.

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    9 months ago

    The real problem is pronouns. We have to get rid of them. Nothing but proper nouns.

    “George likes proper nouns in George’s sentences.”

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    Why couldn’t there be a party that people vote and also that has sane economic policies AND sane social policies? Why do the tribes have to be “good at one thing, horrible at the other”?

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    I’m noticing a lot of insults and accusations of transphobia, but it’s not there.

    Teach people the skills needed. I wouldn’t want to learn or hang out with someone who snubs a person that says something wrong.

    If you weren’t taught, you won’t know.

    No teacher treats students the way I am seeing.

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      I have feelings about this, hopefully my venting can explain why this expectation pisses people off. Explaining this shit can be exhausting and just existing as someone who’s trans leads to deeply probing questions both about trans people at large and also you specifically. Depending on context, they can be harmless or even supportive in intent. But too often they lead to more icky questioning, disparaging remarks, threats, abandonment, and… so on. Even in harmless cases it’s fucking traumatic. I do have some cis friends who ask me completely appropriate questions, but I trust them because they’re respectful of my boundaries. Most aren’t.

      yes, taking the time to level with people, educate, etc is a good ideal, but speaking from experience it’s not something everyone can be expected to do right off the bat. The consequences of attempting to do so and receiving abuse in return can be too close to deep psychological wounds that require time to heal.

      do consider there’s less of us in general too. and explaining parts of the trans experience take walls of text like this one lol. In an ocean of bullshit, we can only do so much to bail ourselves out. We need help, or at the least, we need some baseline levels of empathy and respect from the people we’re trying to educate. Or at the absolute least try not to blame us when we’re grumpy or skittish about it.

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      If you weren’t taught, you won’t know.

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/transgender-woman-from-nelson-house-attacked-1.3951040

      “He started making fun of [a] friend for hanging out with me, saying, ‘Oh I didn’t know you were gay, I didn’t know you were a fag’,” she said.

      As an activist for the LGBT community, Spence spoke up for herself and the man she was talking with.

      Spence says it escalated quickly and the man punched her in the face. So, Spence says she punched him back and suddenly other people descended on her.

      “One thing led to another and I was on the ground and the three of them were kicking me in the face,” she said.

      “They were saying things like, ‘Faggot, tranny, bitch.’ Really, really mean things, like misogynistic things.”

      While she was being attacked, Spence said she wasn’t sure she was going to make it out alive. While the beating felt like forever, her friends later told her it lasted about three minutes.

      Was the attacker in this story “not taught” it’s not acceptable to assault people? Should the trans person have been calmly teaching him “this is unacceptable” as she was getting punched in the face?

      If people need to be taught “punching people in the face is wrong” then they need to be locked up until they learn that, it’s not the roll of the general public.

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    I’m all for being comfortable in your own skin. I get it. Life’s hard enough. But there’s a reason why your sex or gender at birth is important. How your body works genetically and how you feel are two different things. The conditions which led to your genetics may be a larger environmental issue and need to be accounted for.

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      It’s not that simple. Brains and exterior bodies are not necessarily coordinated like that, and bodies themselves take a myriad of forms.

      Don’t be fooled by those saying “there are only Men and Women and That’s That.” It’s not true.

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        I don’t care the actual values. In fact, I want people to be happy so whatever you need to do to achieve that go ahead and do it.

        I apologize if the following sentences aren’t exactly PC, don’t mean any harm by them.

        I care about the values for other reasons. Say someone was born male, undergoes HRT and becomes female. Due to their birth genetics, they are more likely to get X disease. They have no health issues, undergo HRT or whatever, and then the disease is found. So now they are a female with X disease.

        That data is very different. That’s all I care about.

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      How the fuck does that make it any business of anyone other than your motherfucking doctor, and even then, significantly less often than you’ve convinced yourself of? (seriously - if your GP keeps asking you about your genitals every time you go in to see them, you should report them and find a new one, E: never mind them even knowing your chromosomic or genetic or even hormonal make up)

      You’re just a wilfully ignorant transphobe trying to pretend they aren’t one.

      But you are.

      And if that bothers you - you can just stop being one! I guarantee its easier than being a miserable hateful little bigot, no need for all that mental gymnastics, for starters…

      Otherwise - fuck off back up your own ass…

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        I don’t care about your gender at birth. Really don’t. I do think that your gender at birth has significance. If you were born a male with certain genetic factors, and you change your gender to female later in life, it is very important to know that you were born male with factors X Y Z and not female. It’s not a tough concept.

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          If you were born a male with certain genetic factors, and you change your gender to female later in life, it is very important to know that you were born male with factors X Y Z and not female. It’s not a tough concept.

          No, it isn’t a tough concept, you’re just a bigot. ¯\(ツ)/¯ *

          I noticed that I edited my reply just as you posted this, so I’ll add this here because you made the exact leap I knew you would - does your doctor know your chromosomes? DNA? Have you ever even had your hormones tested? The answer is almost certainly “no”, because most people don’t, because those things are hardly ever relevant, and if they are, it isn’t because someone is trans (E: in most cases, anyway).

          No matter how many ridiculous leaps you make, and how many times you swear you don’t care about gender at birth or whatever:
          You
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          Transphobe

          *(E: not that it matters anyway, even if your point were relevant, you’re still avoiding the question of how it is anyone’s business other than an individual and maybe part of their medical team. Because the only answer you have to that question is transphobic. And I don’t even need to unblock you to confirm this, you’ve already proven your shitty worth all over this thread, because you just can’t help your bigoted self)

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            No one gets tested for it because it’s very rare for it to not match up with your assigned sex at birth. Why spend hundreds of dollars on a test when you can just ask someone and get things right over 90% of the time? In recent years, doctors have always asked for both gender identity and assigned sex at birth, presumably because both are medically relevant.

            But the OP is clearly not about medical data for healthcare purposes.

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            I’m not a transphobe lol. I don’t give a shit about it. I want you to be happy as a person, and you do you.

            I don’t want incorrect conclusions being drawn from a shitty dataset due to people changing their gender at birth. You were born with a certain sex. You can’t change that, no matter how hard you try. That information is also valuable, there may be trends that affect a specific sex more. If you change your gender, you could pollute that dataset and lead to incorrect conclusions drawn.

            Not everyone hates transpeople. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they hate transpeople. Take a second to get off your high horse and actually think about the concepts I have commented about.

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      You’re totally right. But the meme is probably referencing the fact that Republicans seem to care a lot about sex and gender when it comes to kids sports, or sports in general. That comes off worse considering Republican states are banning transgender treatment, or allowing conversion therapy. Seems like they really don’t like the LGBT community and try to hide it behind “health” related or “sports equality” related reasons.

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        Ok? Great? The post is missing the fact that whatever genitals you’re born with at birth is actually an important fact.

        As you grow up, if you feel you are X instead of Y, great Good for you. That doesn’t change the environmental conditions that led to your birth.

        Also with sports, the issue is with the league “names”. Create an “open” division where anyone can compete. Then create a division that’s biological females only. You think there’s no genetic advantage to someone who was a male for 30 years and then changed their gender (sorry if this isn’t worded the best). The issue here is creating a fair playing field for everyone.