I’m all for being comfortable in your own skin. I get it. Life’s hard enough. But there’s a reason why your sex or gender at birth is important. How your body works genetically and how you feel are two different things. The conditions which led to your genetics may be a larger environmental issue and need to be accounted for.
I don’t care the actual values. In fact, I want people to be happy so whatever you need to do to achieve that go ahead and do it.
I apologize if the following sentences aren’t exactly PC, don’t mean any harm by them.
I care about the values for other reasons. Say someone was born male, undergoes HRT and becomes female. Due to their birth genetics, they are more likely to get X disease. They have no health issues, undergo HRT or whatever, and then the disease is found. So now they are a female with X disease.
That data is very different. That’s all I care about.
How the fuck does that make it any business of anyone other than your motherfucking doctor, and even then, significantly less often than you’ve convinced yourself of? (seriously - if your GP keeps asking you about your genitals every time you go in to see them, you should report them and find a new one, E: never mind them even knowing your chromosomic or genetic or even hormonal make up)
You’re just a wilfully ignorant transphobe trying to pretend they aren’t one.
But you are.
And if that bothers you - you can just stop being one! I guarantee its easier than being a miserable hateful little bigot, no need for all that mental gymnastics, for starters…
I don’t care about your gender at birth. Really don’t. I do think that your gender at birth has significance. If you were born a male with certain genetic factors, and you change your gender to female later in life, it is very important to know that you were born male with factors X Y Z and not female. It’s not a tough concept.
If you were born a male with certain genetic factors, and you change your gender to female later in life, it is very important to know that you were born male with factors X Y Z and not female. It’s not a tough concept.
No, it isn’t a tough concept, you’re just a bigot. ¯\(ツ)/¯ *
I noticed that I edited my reply just as you posted this, so I’ll add this here because you made the exact leap I knew you would - does your doctor know your chromosomes? DNA? Have you ever even had your hormones tested? The answer is almost certainly “no”, because most people don’t, because those things are hardly ever relevant, and if they are, it isn’t because someone is trans (E: in most cases, anyway).
No matter how many ridiculous leaps you make, and how many times you swear you don’t care about gender at birth or whatever:
You
Are
A
Transphobe
*(E: not that it matters anyway, even if your point were relevant, you’re still avoiding the question of how it is anyone’s business other than an individual and maybe part of their medical team. Because the only answer you have to that question is transphobic. And I don’t even need to unblock you to confirm this, you’ve already proven your shitty worth all over this thread, because you just can’t help your bigoted self)
No one gets tested for it because it’s very rare for it to not match up with your assigned sex at birth. Why spend hundreds of dollars on a test when you can just ask someone and get things right over 90% of the time? In recent years, doctors have always asked for both gender identity and assigned sex at birth, presumably because both are medically relevant.
But the OP is clearly not about medical data for healthcare purposes.
I’m not a transphobe lol. I don’t give a shit about it. I want you to be happy as a person, and you do you.
I don’t want incorrect conclusions being drawn from a shitty dataset due to people changing their gender at birth. You were born with a certain sex. You can’t change that, no matter how hard you try. That information is also valuable, there may be trends that affect a specific sex more. If you change your gender, you could pollute that dataset and lead to incorrect conclusions drawn.
Not everyone hates transpeople. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they hate transpeople. Take a second to get off your high horse and actually think about the concepts I have commented about.
You’re totally right. But the meme is probably referencing the fact that Republicans seem to care a lot about sex and gender when it comes to kids sports, or sports in general.
That comes off worse considering Republican states are banning transgender treatment, or allowing conversion therapy. Seems like they really don’t like the LGBT community and try to hide it behind “health” related or “sports equality” related reasons.
Ok? Great? The post is missing the fact that whatever genitals you’re born with at birth is actually an important fact.
As you grow up, if you feel you are X instead of Y, great Good for you. That doesn’t change the environmental conditions that led to your birth.
Also with sports, the issue is with the league “names”. Create an “open” division where anyone can compete. Then create a division that’s biological females only. You think there’s no genetic advantage to someone who was a male for 30 years and then changed their gender (sorry if this isn’t worded the best). The issue here is creating a fair playing field for everyone.
I’m all for being comfortable in your own skin. I get it. Life’s hard enough. But there’s a reason why your sex or gender at birth is important. How your body works genetically and how you feel are two different things. The conditions which led to your genetics may be a larger environmental issue and need to be accounted for.
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It’s not that simple. Brains and exterior bodies are not necessarily coordinated like that, and bodies themselves take a myriad of forms.
Don’t be fooled by those saying “there are only Men and Women and That’s That.” It’s not true.
I don’t care the actual values. In fact, I want people to be happy so whatever you need to do to achieve that go ahead and do it.
I apologize if the following sentences aren’t exactly PC, don’t mean any harm by them.
I care about the values for other reasons. Say someone was born male, undergoes HRT and becomes female. Due to their birth genetics, they are more likely to get X disease. They have no health issues, undergo HRT or whatever, and then the disease is found. So now they are a female with X disease.
That data is very different. That’s all I care about.
People are more than just data points.
You’re right, it’s important for your doctor to know that stuff. And no one else.
How the fuck does that make it any business of anyone other than your motherfucking doctor, and even then, significantly less often than you’ve convinced yourself of? (seriously - if your GP keeps asking you about your genitals every time you go in to see them, you should report them and find a new one, E: never mind them even knowing your chromosomic or genetic or even hormonal make up)
You’re just a wilfully ignorant transphobe trying to pretend they aren’t one.
But you are.
And if that bothers you - you can just stop being one! I guarantee its easier than being a miserable hateful little bigot, no need for all that mental gymnastics, for starters…
Otherwise - fuck off back up your own ass…
I don’t care about your gender at birth. Really don’t. I do think that your gender at birth has significance. If you were born a male with certain genetic factors, and you change your gender to female later in life, it is very important to know that you were born male with factors X Y Z and not female. It’s not a tough concept.
No, it isn’t a tough concept, you’re just a bigot. ¯\(ツ)/¯ *
I noticed that I edited my reply just as you posted this, so I’ll add this here because you made the exact leap I knew you would - does your doctor know your chromosomes? DNA? Have you ever even had your hormones tested? The answer is almost certainly “no”, because most people don’t, because those things are hardly ever relevant, and if they are, it isn’t because someone is trans (E: in most cases, anyway).
No matter how many ridiculous leaps you make, and how many times you swear you don’t care about gender at birth or whatever:
You
Are
A
Transphobe
*(E: not that it matters anyway, even if your point were relevant, you’re still avoiding the question of how it is anyone’s business other than an individual and maybe part of their medical team. Because the only answer you have to that question is transphobic. And I don’t even need to unblock you to confirm this, you’ve already proven your shitty worth all over this thread, because you just can’t help your bigoted self)
No one gets tested for it because it’s very rare for it to not match up with your assigned sex at birth. Why spend hundreds of dollars on a test when you can just ask someone and get things right over 90% of the time? In recent years, doctors have always asked for both gender identity and assigned sex at birth, presumably because both are medically relevant.
But the OP is clearly not about medical data for healthcare purposes.
I’m not a transphobe lol. I don’t give a shit about it. I want you to be happy as a person, and you do you.
I don’t want incorrect conclusions being drawn from a shitty dataset due to people changing their gender at birth. You were born with a certain sex. You can’t change that, no matter how hard you try. That information is also valuable, there may be trends that affect a specific sex more. If you change your gender, you could pollute that dataset and lead to incorrect conclusions drawn.
Not everyone hates transpeople. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they hate transpeople. Take a second to get off your high horse and actually think about the concepts I have commented about.
You’re totally right. But the meme is probably referencing the fact that Republicans seem to care a lot about sex and gender when it comes to kids sports, or sports in general. That comes off worse considering Republican states are banning transgender treatment, or allowing conversion therapy. Seems like they really don’t like the LGBT community and try to hide it behind “health” related or “sports equality” related reasons.
Ok? Great? The post is missing the fact that whatever genitals you’re born with at birth is actually an important fact.
As you grow up, if you feel you are X instead of Y, great Good for you. That doesn’t change the environmental conditions that led to your birth.
Also with sports, the issue is with the league “names”. Create an “open” division where anyone can compete. Then create a division that’s biological females only. You think there’s no genetic advantage to someone who was a male for 30 years and then changed their gender (sorry if this isn’t worded the best). The issue here is creating a fair playing field for everyone.