• Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The people who think Trump should be allowed to run in spite of being an insurrectionist are the same people who support barring other justice-involved people from merely voting in an election

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      I’m a little out of the loop, serious question, was he ever actually convicted of organizing an insurrection?

      Edit: I’m not an American but apparently asking questions makes you “the enemy” over there. Jesus Christ your country is fucked.

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        There’s no requirement that he was previously convicted of insurrection - that’s a separate charge and carries a higher bar. The constitution only requires that the court concludes as part of this case that he was involved in an insurrection. And there’s a wealth of evidence showing that he was so the courts will almost certainly come to that conclusion.

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    And we thought by law Erdoğan could not run for presidency again, and yet did (also the first time because of his questionable university diploma but that is a story for another night kids)

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      If my old folks didn’t read the Bible that they claim to know so much about, what makes you think they read the Constitution?

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    This is the argument that Raphael Cruz was born in Canada and shouldn’t have been a contender for the Republican nomination. I support this logic.

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    Forgive me for being dumb, but I only see the 3 requirements for being president Link

    Be a natural-born citizen of the United States Be at least 35 years old Have been a resident of the United States for 14 years

    Can someone point out what I’m missing?

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        Hey I appreciate the quick answers! Woke up recently and didn’t feel like searching so thanks for doing the hard work for me.

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        I’m curious why that only prevents people who have sworn an oath. Why should anyone who has engaged in insurrection be able to hold office? Forgive me if this is a dumb question, I am only half awake.

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          They didn’t want to completely disenfranchise southerners after the Civil War. There’s an argument to be made that they should have, but I can see their logic in not wanting to antagonize people while trying to put the country back together.

          At the time, people were a lot more loyal to their states than to the US as a whole, so it would have been a lot like punishing patriots for fighting for their country.

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    The one thing The Simpsons had wrong was Arnie as the POTUS. I wish that was the time they ignored the constitution – I think he did a decent job as the governator.

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      He did a decent job in that he didn’t drive California into the ground. I was living in L.A. at the time. People voted to re-elect him because “he hasn’t been that bad” and Phil Angelides was a terrible candidate. I wouldn’t say he was an exceptional governor. Mostly he just maintained the status quo. Which, from what I hear (I no longer live in California), is still better than Newsom.

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        Thanks for taking the time to give a local’s insight, as a foreigner my point of view is limited!

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          A lot of people thought he did a great job. Probably because it’s so easy to be governor of California and do a terrible job.

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    It’s not in the constitution. The first 15 presidents and all the original set of American politicians were literally insurrectionists and the original documents were very clear that, that sort of thing is allowed and protected. It’s later interpretations of statists that negate it.

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    cause you know, president is the most important thing in the entire universe, always.

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      If you want to wield a a massive amount of global political and military power, it’s pretty important.

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        right but you know most people are not even close to that so its really mostly football for them.

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      Commander in chief of the most powerful military in world history and the largest and most productive economy is, in fact, pretty important. I don’t really understand what point you’re making, if any