• ???@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Thanks. That’s a good explanation of it.

    But where does one draw the line between “Individual action” and “battalion action”?

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      When the atrocity in question was ordered or encouraged by the leadership. The point the blame passes from the individual to the institution is when the institution gets involved in the atrocity. So if Hamas had said “kill civilians” or “rape women” we’d have to blame Hamas for that, but as long as it’s a decision an individual made on their own only the individual bears responsibility.

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      1 year ago

      What’s the standard for this in the U.S.? It reaches only as far up the ladder as anyone can definitively prove. Abu Gharib saw like, what, a lieutenant fired or something. But when it’s “the enemy”, all of a sudden we assume by default the decision came from the highest levels, and it’s carte blanche to wipe out 2.5 million people living in a giant concentration camp, in a supposed attempt to do regime change.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, let’s be honest, this looks like a serious genocide attempt, and Bibi has been saying genocidal things every few days.

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            1 year ago

            Hmmm. Are you replying to the right comment?

            What I’m saying is that Bibi and his cabinet made lots of genocidal claims to fully support intent of genocide, and tery are the ones pushing their army to do this.

            It’s because they said that we have to assume it comes from above… Well with Bibi we don’t have to assume, he already told us he’s Hitler.

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              No no. They’re talking about Hamas in the “comes from above” thing. When it’s the US crimes go only as high up the ladder as provable, but when it’s “the enemy” (aka Hamas) individual crimes are used as excuses to wipe out 2.5 million people, is what dx1 is saying. They’re pointing out the hypocrisy.

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                1 year ago

                Yeah buddy I get it, I have eyes, I read their comment. My response to them meant “lol well isn’t that funny since Bibi is the genocidal one here, saying the quiet part out loud on television”.