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Maybe now she’ll retire?
Retire? She’s still got a decent shot in the next senate primary.
I’m sure the oligarchy will move onto weekend at bernie-ing some other end of life boomer.
She’s the fucking silent generation; literally the generation before boomers
Boomers were trained by rod and belt to respect their elders. They can’t help it.
The Karma hammer will come around. There’s no stopping it.
Boomers were trained by rod and belt to respect their elders. They can’t help it.
Well they did fight World War II, so there was that.
Nope. The baby boom happened after they got back from WW2 and started fucking. That would be the so called “Greatest” Generation whom were all abusers and PTSD sufferers in some form, whether it’s from actual war or great depression survival. Stories I heard about them all they did was beat their kids and treat em like garbage. No wonder the boomers are insane.
Yeah I’m aware of those facts.
It’s just that people use the term baby boomers two ways, one as a general derogatory for anyone who’s old, and then another way as a specific age group during specific years.
I was replying to the generic usage, not the literal.
Not the bernie I’d hope for…
She could still beat John Ashcroft
Nope, they’re gonna do a “Weekend at Bernie’s” thing for at least a few weeks.
We sure that wasn’t already happening?
We might get to the sequel now, so expect to hear a lot of Caribbean music in the Senate.
Still better than the time they wore kinte cloth.
Okay this was my first thought too.
She can still participate in the senate at the same capacity as a Republican.
“Weekend at Dianne’s” coming to a legislature near you.
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I actually met her once back in the 90s (bojack title song begins) on vacation in DC. She let me and my family into the Senate as observers when we mentioned we were from the Bay Area, which was kinda cool.
But that was two and a half decades ago. Since then she had gone very senile, and it became evident in recent years that the only thing that’d make her relinquish her position was death. So here we are.
So: thanks for letting me sit in on the federal legislative process that one time, but holy fuck lady you should have retired a long goddamn time ago.
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I don’t know how you don’t get it… this is the pinnacle of their careers, the height of their power, and their main source of identity, plus people keep voting them in and their entire staff depends on them for financial stability. They want to stay and everyone they talk to wants them to stay.
It’s shocking to me that anyone in a safe district retires.
It shocks you? My father was a woodworker at the height of his skill with 14 workers under him. He retired at 61, because he could and because he had worked his whole life. How is that shocking to anyone?
It’s easier to give up a life of hard labour VS a life of hard power.
that’s one of the wisest things, I’ve heard for a very long time.
Same but it also makes complete sense. The rest of us talk about how we would’ve retired a long time ago because for us that means finally relaxing and not working anymore. People like her and Moscow Mitch have already retired decades ago, they’re just still getting paid for walking around and talking. That’s why they don’t leave.
That’s the difference, she wasn’t actually doing anything that counts as work by this point. Why would you retire when you can just keep collecting that paycheque for next to no effort?
The paycheck was chump change for her, under 175k a year. Her net worth was close to 90 million. It was 100% refusal to let go of power.
The point is still the same – she wasn’t “working” so there wasn’t a benefit to retiring.
Don’t relegate yourself to a tax bracket.
-Frank Underwood
Look into who her caretaker was.
She might not have had that much money. She married a rich guy, but he’s dead and left her with a trust, and some kind of evil stepdaughter situation is going on, that all went public when her bio child sued the trustees on Feinstiens behalf, accusing them of stealing from the trust and elder abuse. Feinstien still should have retired, but she might not be totally loaded.
She might not have had that much money.
She had a net worth between 60 and 70 million dollars. That doesn’t include anything from her recently deceased husband either.
The craziest part about this is that you saw her when she was still at an age that would be considered retirement age…
Oh, definitely. I’d probably have been fine if she went for like 1 more term at that point, but five more was just fucking stupid.
it became evident in recent years that the only thing that’d make her relinquish her position was death. So here we are.
Ok…so… they way you worded that makes it sound like you murdered her lol…
Hey, we dont know if they didnt. Perhaps they have access to dark and/or eldritch magicks, maybe even an anomalous artefact or two.
I also had a handful of interactions with her as a student reporter back in the early 90s. She was always very gracious and engaging, but in my experience that’s kind of true of all politicians by definition.
The one thing that always stood out to me is the way she handled the dual assassination of mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk. I was just a little kid at the time, and the way she stepped up and took control of the situation filled me with admiration and confidence.
Maybe that was the high-point of her political career, I don’t know.
That said, you couldn’t be a Northern Californian at that time and not appreciate her leadership, no matter what else you may have disagreed with her about.
I say all of the above while not touching the obvious fact that she stayed in office far too long.
Don’t mean this is a gouache way, but this needed to happen. It really seems like she lost her cognitive abilities a long time ago, and whomever has been keeping after her was manipulating her for their own benefit, and possibly using her as a puppet in her frailty, and it didn’t seem it was going to end anytime soon.
That seat needs new blood and energy.
RIP and condolences to the family. But yeah I agree. ll the seats need that. We need regular, young, honest, decent people running for office and tossing out the out of touch fossils that have sold out to too many favors and donations from giant corpos and billionaires.
Good luck finding honest decent people, seems like only the psychotic grifters are interested in politics. All the decent honest people run grassroots orgs it seems and they can’t get the funding to do politics or are interested in helping directly not in fighting dinosaurs on policy
Decent people want to solve problems. They may disagree on what is a problem and they may disagree on the solution but they at least have the intent to solve a problem when they see it. Unfortunately while politics SHOULD be about solving problems these days its primary purpose is playing power games.
It’s why so many fresh Representatives and even Senators start out with big plans and enthusiasm. They see a problem that they want to solve. It’s also why they are mostly ineffective. They arrive on The Hill and quickly realize that solving problems isn’t really what their peers want to do. So their either abandon their plans or start “going along to get along” and get co-opted into the game.
I’d say you hit the nail on the head. I’d love to be more active in politics, this next election I thought about trying to help organize some rallies or just work with the locals on setting up informational events.
Before this year, I didn’t have the time or money to do anything like that. If I didn’t live in the cheapest possible place, I’d still not have the money or time. To make it worse, running against conservative in the Midwest, especially places like Indiana, is a surefire way to just about waste your time.
We should only allow the people who don’t want to be in politics to be in politics lol
Limit every office to one term. Problem solved.
sets the revolving door to max speed
Look y’all, i fixed regulatory capture!
Did you really just call a 90 year old woman who was in the Senate for 31 years a “revolving door”
Unironically this would help. The ones enforcing regulatory capture are the ones who have been in their positions the longest.
If the corporations have to constantly introduce themselves to the new politicians, it greatly increases the cost and lowers the lifetime value of the money they’re spending on lobbying.
It might help, but not in isolation, imo. I think there is value to both having new people with new ideas as well as having people with knowledge of how institutions work. If you have entirely new representatives every term, then everyone is learning things anew (from the corporate lobbyists who are their same jobs for every legislative session). If we did away with private money in politics and publicly funded campaigns, then I think the case for strict term limits is stronger
I mean obviously the best solution is to remove private money entirely. It’s disgustingly biased against the majority of citizens.
A one term limit is silly, for the reason you mention. But 3-4 seems plenty to get a mix of seasoned representatives and new ideas.
This had been implemented in some places, and it’s only caused corruption to go up and the quality of politicians to go down. Term limits aren’t the silver bullet we need, they’re actually bad.
Interesting, you have any examples of where they’ve tried this?
Truthfully? No. It’s something I’ve heard many times but that’s it.
I’m for term limits but one term is a bit short. Like with any job, it takes some time to really learn the way the system works and to be effective in the position.
We limited the presidency to two terms. As a thought experiment, do you think Trump could have beaten Obama?
Nope. I also don’t think trump could have beaten clinton prior to Obama. I think trump was a reaction to Obama.
New problems created though.
gouche
Gauche, French for left, because left handed people are awkward according to the French, who we took the idea from (but at least they’re not sinister).
What the fuck was up with people not liking left handed people? Best guess I have is that it fucked up writing on clay tablets during the early days of civilization and just kinda stuck.
Ugg smudged Trogg’s cave drawing back in ye olde caveman days because Ugg was left-handed, and thousands of years of bitching has been the result.
Ok?
My understanding is that Katie Porter is running for that seat.
She is, and she’s fucking awesome.
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Biden is up in front of crowds almost daily addressing questions just fine. Don’t know what you mean.
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I understand where you’re coming from, but you don’t need to have lived the life to empathise with people who lived the life. Biden seems to be pretty spry for an 80 year old, with most of his problems being problems he’s had his entire life, rather than new things that are coming up now that he’s almost 80.
The question right now is who can replace Biden? He’ll be term-limited out in 2028, and Trump or his kids will be around to tap the MAGA movement. Now is the time to replace Biden, and yet the only people who are running against him on my side of the aisle is an anti-vax almost MAGA idiot who is 69 years old himself, and a 71 year old woman I’ve never heard of until now, and a convicted felon, who, UNLIKE the clowns over on Team Red, is NOWHERE near sniffing any qualification to be considered a major candidate. Hell, Biden isn’t even interested in shifting gears on his Veep, meaning the person with the largest chance of getting the Dem nomination in 2028 is Kamala Harris, who will be 63 when she starts her term in office, and is as huge of a question mark as anyone else on the Dem side. I think this is a huge part of why Biden is running in 2020 rather than handing things off. Nobody is rising the ranks below him. Nobody is making the effort to get themselves in front of Americans, and speak to issues that affect ALL Americans, and thus we don’t have a ready POTUS candidate. If that isn’t fixed by 2028, even if Biden wins in 2024, we’re going to leave an opportunity for a Trump to slide into office then.
Swallwell, Schiff, Porter, AOC, there are choices.
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Beto maybe?
Trump was 2 when frisbees were invented
In 1885? Far out!
Stop the nonsense. Biden is fine.
He is fine, and I can’t see Trump as president again. I might have a mental break if he gets elected again, but it would be great to get some younger candidates.
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What a stupid comment.
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Diane Feinstein: literally dying of old age
Also Diane Feinstein: I’m still fit for office!
Think of the opportunity for progress though… first woman senator, and first corpse senator. I really think we can sell this bridge!
I think Moscow Mitch took that title - he passed a couple years ago, but they’ve just been propping his corpse up like a puppet and using a ventriloquist to deliver speeches.
He’s not having a stroke the wifi disconnected
[Pinwheel intensifies.]
Someone’s gotta do a wellness check on the ventriloquist then, looks like even they’re stroking out now
Mitch McConnell’s ventriloquist is the ghost of Strom Thurmond.
Nah, that old bitch is gonna live forever. Nothing keeps old people alive quite as well as hate and spite. Our only hope is for him to stroke out so hard he gets locked in body syndrome.
In other words, some poor soul has their fist up his ass?
His name is “Vladimir Putin” - this is actually his fetish.
Weekend at Washington
End lifeism
She had literally given up her personal power of attorney to her 66 year old daughter. But she can make votes on bills that affect the population of the United States.
The fuck.
Now we’re just need the rest of the turtle club to retire or pass
We need an ensure shortage
Is she keeping her seat
Is she running again?
Yep, she’s already forgotten she died.
She got better!
I get knocked down, but I get up again
She’ll continue on like Professor Binns in Harry Potter. Not even realizing she had died.
Weekend at
Bernie’sDianne’sShe already said she wasn’t running for another term
And at the press conference said she hasn’t decided yet until an aide stopped her and told her they were making that announcement right now.
Inconclusive, we are waiting for a reply.
I’m getting really sick of these “icons for women in politics” dying from age-related conditions in office.
Every year I watch
RGBRBG retroactively destroy her own legacy by having refused to retire when she should have.RGB
Ruth Gator Binsburg?
Red, Green, Blue
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DVS - devious. Brilliant!
Well I suppose RGB could have retired under Obama, but we know how McConnell treated Obama’s nominees
couldn’t Obama have made an appointment while the senate wasn’t in session or something? i remember reading something like that, the issue with the democrats in the US as an outside observer is that they want to maintain the facade of playing by the rules so they don’t do ahit what’s required, Obama should have appointed his nominee and then push on RBG to retire and appoint another, as it stands his failure is letting the US slide into fascism
You’re referring to a recess appointment, in which the President can make certain temporary appointments without Congressional approval when Congress is in recess. But in recent times, even when Congress is technically not in session, the majority party keeps members around to gavel in quick sessions every few days so Congress never officially goes into recess.
Obama made some recess appointments anyway, and the matter is still being litigated. I bet nobody will make a substantive recess appointment until this is settled.
https://gai.georgetown.edu/supreme-court-to-decide-what-constitutes-a-senate-recess/
The process is the justice announces retirement (or dies) and then the president appoints a nominee. Perhaps Obama didn’t ask RBG to retire prior to 2014, or she refused. The president can’t force a change, but just react to one.
The Republican minority prior to 2014 blocked one of Obama’s recess appointments, so after 2014, even had RBG announced retirement, it was probably unlikely that a recess appointment would work. I assume at the time, they figured Clinton would be president in 2016 and that RGB could then retire during Clinton’s presidency.
Perhaps Obama didn’t ask RBG to retire prior to 2014, or she refused.
Apparently he didn’t outright ASK but he did tactfully raise the issue.
She was stubborn though and just wouldn’t do it.
Presidential appointments to the Supreme Court still require a congressional hearing and a confirmation vote in the U.S. Senate.
Yes, after the recess which it mentions, it goes back to advise and consent. Obama could have forced a committee vote this way, but he would have lost in the end.
Iirc the president can do a temporary appointment. It will last the length of your presidency. But then the next president gets the permanent appointment.
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RGB
Lol
You have to admit, she was a colorful character.
Yeah, man. Ruth Gader Binsburg
Justice Red Green Blue, compatible with any color synchronization program you run on your desktop.
It better be addressable RGB.
Let’s be clear though, she isn’t the one causing these evils. That blame lies squarely on Republicans.
I believe there were several things in the last year of Obama’s term that should’ve happened, but because of how sure everyone was that Clinton was going to win, they decided it wouldn’t be worth it. I think RBG expected to retire until Clinton. And well, we know how that went.
I also suspect that their personality which led them to becoming trailblazers for women , and refusing to take no for an answer, is why they didn’t retire earlier. Their whole thing was not giving into people who didn’t want them there. That attitude became detrimental in their old age.
Blaming Republicans for causing evils is like blaming lions for eating other animals. Of course they’re going to. Of course. It’s up to Democrats, and all the rest of us, to deal with that.
Of course, but the problem is still the lions, and when we have the opportunity to, we should evict them. It is up to us to be the adults in the room. So just shouldn’t forget that our first and foremost goal is to get more adults in here.
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Republicans aren’t an unstoppable force of nature. Republicans overturned Roe. Republicans have made abortions illegal. That is absolutely the Republicans fault.
Democrats should’ve done more. They should’ve pushed back harder against the Republicans stealing Garland’s seat, and they should’ve convinced RBG it would be safer for her to retire. I can understand why they didn’t, but that doesn’t change that they should’ve.
Let me put it this way, if you don’t mind a corny superhero analogy. If innocent people die when villains attack, the heroes did fail to save them, and are responsible for their deaths in a sense. But the villains who actually attacked are far, far more responsible. While chastising the heroes we shouldn’t forget to damn the villains, and prepare for a counterattack.
Thank fuck. She was such a fucking piece of shit to be hogging her office like that when she was clearly too old and senile. Good riddance!
I imagine Mitch McConnell isn’t too far behind.
I get it, aging sucks, but it’s part of the deal. You can’t live forever and there is a time to move on.
Now imagine the terrifying future where there are expensive treatments available that allow these toxic humans to live much much longer. Allowing the power brokers whose viewpoints were cemented many decades ago to continue to rule over others
The idea that society progresses one funeral at a time has some merit.
You know that while the treatments would be more expensive than anything an avg American could afford, for some reason it would be covered by the congressional medical plan. Just like Trump got experimental treatments for covid.
We got a Quellist over here.
fucken meths
What I don’t understand is why these people don’t just retire? Being that rich, you can kick up your feet and sip margaritas all day for the rest of your life, why work till you die if you don’t have to??
Because power appears to be even more addictive than money.
Might also be a case of them being so deep into the fight that they don’t want to walk away from it.
Why stop when there’s so much left to ruin?
i’ve always said that people will know when i’m a millionaire because they’ll never hear from me again lol
if i’ve got enough money to sustain myself in a little house in the woods, i’m fucking right off and never coming out
What else is going to feed their sense of importance?
when i saw midsommar (2019) i was struck by how i kind of wanted to do the cliff thing before i got super old
What’s the cliff thing?
Nah, Mitch still has his phylactery hidden away somewhere.
He’s nine years younger than Dianne.
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Senator Feinstein never backed away from a fight
especially when it was with schoolchildren
I find it sad that instead of spending her golden years with her husband and daughter that she instead spent them being wheeled around the Capital Building desperately trying to pretend that she was still healthy and relevant.
Hopefully this incentivizes a few more geriatrics to go home instead of spending their final years “on the hill”.
American politics is so screwed up. She didn’t step down when she should have, and now the majority party isn’t major or senior enough to confirm judges until at least the 2024 elections. (Which was probably the whole reason they were doing Weekend at Bernie’s with her.)
Imagine if she had mentored and sponsored a younger replacement in 2000 and then retired in 2010. Where would we be?
Now that Skeletor has died with no one obvious to replace her, the Judiciary Committee will probably grind to a halt when it comes to confirming judges.
She was a public servant that worked for a long time on your behalf.
California’s governor will name a replacement for the remainder of her term.
Democrats no longer have a clear majority in the Senate. This has all sorts of complications. I believe it will still take 60 votes to replace her in Judiciary which Republicans won’t give them. Probably the main reason she stuck around to begin with. Biden has to be careful with his nominees if he can get through any at all. Gawd help us if a SCOTUS member dies. The call for Menendez to step down will quiet a bit.
She was a public servant that worked for a long time on your behalf.
She worked a long time and was obviously better than the GOP, but staying on for so long was at best a lack of vision and at worse an egotistical decision that will bite us in the ass. All these geriatric ass politicians who don’t mentor, grow the bench with the next generation, and retire when it is time to are leading us to the situation. This is going to end up being RBG all over again.
RBG all over again
This is peanuts compared to RBG. Feinstein refusing to retire will lead to some inconvenience in the senate and the judiciary committee. RBG refusing to retire fucked the Supreme Court for decades to come.
She was a piece of shit freedom hater, one of the worst Senators ever. Good riddance to that old bag.
I honestly don’t know a lot about her so I don’t know what you’re referring to. I assume gun rights?
That plus carte blanche approval of all forms of warrantless mass surveillance, violations of our 4th Amendment rights, being a pro-corporate oligarchy puppet etc
I mean this isn’t wrong. She was one of the votes against the proposal of members of congress being banned from owning stocks.
No wonder, she consistently outperformed the best traders on wall street. I wonder how she managed that?
Blame the Senate Committe Seniority system.
Seniority in the United States Senate is based on the length of time a senator serves on a committee. The majority party member with the most seniority on a committee usually serves as the chair.
That is the only reason to keep sending these people back as old as they are. You send someone new, they have zero power.
No. The second-most senior one from the same party would become the most senior and take over. There’s no good reason for her staying on 15+ years too long.
That would be from a different state and then that state would lose the power of having a senior committee member.
There is a reason Senator Robert Byrd was the longest-serving U.S. Senator. Serving three different tenures as chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Appropriations enabled Byrd to steer a great deal of federal money toward projects in West Virginia.
We’re talking about California here. If any state isn’t starved of power and dependant on federal money, it’s California.
Feinstein was on the following committees. You don’t think she pushed California’s interests in every one.
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Committee on Appropriation
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Subcommittee on Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies
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Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies
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Subcommittee on Defense
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Subcommittee on Energy and Water Development (Chairman)
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Subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies
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Subcommittee on Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies
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Committee on Rules and Administration
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Committee on the Judiciary
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Subcommittee on Criminal Justice and Counterterrorism
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Subcommittee on Federal Courts, Oversight, Agency Action, and Federal Rights
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Subcommittee on Human Rights and the Law
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Subcommittee on the Constitution (Chairman)
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Select Committee on Intelligence
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That last paragraph is all sorts of reasons why she should have retired 15 years ago (at 75!) When voters would have easily voted in her (possibly even hand picked!) protege.
We’re now left a mess because someone with an ego didn’t retire when they could have. Wait this is starting to sound familiar. Thankfully the consequences aren’t likely to be as dire this time.
15 years would mean that you would miss her vote for Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, plus Obamacare. We can play what if all day long.
Yeah because California would elect a Republican senator in 2008 🙄
Can we play what if all day long? Exactly what do you think a Californian congressperson was going to do when presented with Obamas candidates and health care? I’m certain enough to bet my car they would have approved it, especially if they would have been a tiebreaker.
But there is a difference between a senior and junior senator.
CA has only elected democratic (vaguely to the left of the median Democrat, if fairly rank-and-file) senators since 1992. As long as she didn’t leave it to chance and die during her term (…) while she coincided with the honestly fairly moderate-but-still-republican Gov Schwarzenegger, she could have had a hand in picking her replacement.
As others (including myself) have noted, any Democrat-led SCOTUS nomination or major piece of Dem legislation would have passed more-or-less the same. I’d be curious if there was some analysis of where a particular Dem Senator from CA was a “swing vote”. Meanwhile now we’re in a vacancy and her missing vote definitely matters (again, thankfully likely with less impact than RBG’s).
Gotta love a system where nonagenarians have to be dragged half-aware around DC and openly corrupt politicians need to stay in office because the other side is so fucking bad.
This is clearly the best system of government ever made.
Republicans were objecting to a temporary replacement, but if they refuse to give someone a committee seat due to vacancy, Democrats will just change the rule to simple majority. Feinstein could have ended this stalemate at any time by retiring, but the ghouls around her didn’t want to surrender their power.
That’s really not true. They can’t change rules until the next congress.
The Senate can change their rules at any time, they just need 60 votes or to invoke the “nuclear option” and pass with 50. Democrats have been reluctant to do so because it makes changing rules easier in the future and for some reason they don’t think the party with the majority should be able to pass things with just a majority.
Session rules can only be changed at rehearsal start of a new congress.
You really believe that in the last two decades, she had not mentored or influenced a new generation of politicians and that none of her colleagues anticipated a scenario in which she dies or retires without a plan?
Considering she was 90 and didn’t retire before she literally died that does seem to be the case. She even had a health scare and leave from the Senate earlier in the year but she was still there.
Neoliberalism doesn’t work that way. The incentives of the system are all about preserving the symbiotic relationship donors and those in government who represent donors.
But let’s pretend some protege under Feinstein got the donors to support them to replace her. That would instantly sever their relationship with Feinstein and all her senate buds. Senators could and would get new campaign donors if they feel they can’t trust their current donors.
Donors don’t care about society, they just want more money to buy off more senators and judges so they can get more money and so on.
She only inspired the younger generation by pissing them off to their faces.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/22/dianne-feinstein-sunrise-movement-green-new-deal
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/22/politics/feinstein-video-sunrise-movement-kids/index.html
I don’t cheer death, but this shouldn’t be allowed. At least we can move things forward from the headache her (really those around her, lets be real) refusal to resign.
It shouldn’t be allowed, by having term limits for all members of Congress and possibly an age cap. I would be OK with an age cap of 75 for anyone running for election, with exceptions for those who are already in office and surpass that age. After their term ends past age 75 they must retire. Term limits… maybe 2 or 3 terms, not sure
75 is too high. I’d do 65 at most.
Make it more scientifically oriented, peg it to the average age of noticeable mental decline caused by aging, at present that’s still mid to late 60s but it’ll feel less “arbitrary”
Unfortunately, anything that isn’t a hard number is just going to turn into a political cluster fuck.
“What does ‘noticable’ mean? Let’s argue this for 30 years and never come to a decision.”
The best way to “future” proof it would be to make the age get lower every decade until another constitutional amendment is passed.
Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.
Like I said, we already have a general range, and a more precise number which can flex as statistics change wouldn’t be that much harder to achieve.
I believe putting it under standards of medical and mental diagnosis protects it once it’s set in as a norm, a number is just a number, but a calculated number based on medical statistics exposes anyone challenging it to accusations of trying to weaken the government by opening the door for people in mental decline to cling on to power.
Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.
Agree. There are actual cognitive tests that exists today and that’s used by medical personnel.
They could be purpose to test those in office as they get older, the same way that pilots have to get tested medically to maintain their license.
Well with mental decline there’s actual diagnostic standards that can be applied to determine the statistical average.
Like I said, we already have a general range, and a more precise number which can flex as statistics change wouldn’t be that much harder to achieve.
I believe putting it under standards of medical and mental diagnosis protects it once it’s set in as a norm, a number is just a number, but a calculated number based on medical statistics exposes anyone challenging it to accusations of trying to weaken the government by opening the door for people in mental decline to cling on to power.
Maybe so, I was trying to be generous
Tie it inversely to the retirement age, start at 65:65.
IMO we cap those running to where you cant run if your term would end if your age would be over 70. Ex: presidents can run at age 66, but not 67 because their age would put them at 71 at the end of their term
When the life in question is holding back an entire country out of sheer stubbornness, and in the absence of functional policy to deal with that situation, death is literally the only thing we can hope for.
Cheer away. You didn’t put us in this situation, she did.
The problem was that replacing her on the judiciary committee will and would have taken 60 votes, meaning the Republicans will simply refuse to seat anyone and no more judicial appointments until the next election cycle. That’s why she couldn’t retire when it became necessary. She literally clung on in order to avoid Republicans further fucking up the country.
She clung on because, like most members of Congress, she craved power. If she had retired last term, we wouldn’t be in this position. Fuck her
She should have retired 15 years ago at 75. She helped create this problem.
Thank you for the perspective. I figured there had to be some reason that made a little bit of sense. Shame it’s like this.
Just imagine the headache of having to replace her now. She should have retired like 30 years ago.
I agree with you but also her voters need to handle their business.
Maybe now we can get someone young like a 80 year old
