Speed running the nazi playbook.

Sometimes I can’t believe how domesticated USians are.

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    Do you want Canada to pivot to China? Because that’s how you get Canada to pivot towards China… I think.

    I’m just a dumb tropical dweller from the deep south, so I will not pretend to understand Canuck politics or the whims of their people, but history shows that even liberal, democratic nations sometimes turn to tyranical regimes for protection against bigger threats. See Finland during WW2.

    Something, something, enemy of my enemy…

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      As far as I’ve watched across the world, when China gets angry or antsy they shoot down a canadian Fighterjet or two and then everything is “alright” again.

      Because they cant really provoke the big, fat second-grader, so they bully the teeny-weeny 3rd grader to the north.

      Following that, Canada would do hell before joining hands with the Chinese of all…

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    Only after the last tree has been cut down
    Only after the last river has been poisoned
    Only after the last fish has been caught
    Then will you find that money cannot be eaten.

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        As a Canadian, we should strongly consider Dutch unification.

        Schengen zone membership and EU passports yes please.

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        During WW2 Canada sheltered the Dutch royal family and declared the hospital where princess Margriet was born to be Dutch soil. We could just declare the whole rest of country to be Dutch…

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          To this day every year the Netherlands send millions of tulip bulbs to Ottawa as a thank you that are used for a lovely flower festival in the city.

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        Canadians wouldn’t mind closer ties to most of the world. Right now the US and Israel are among those countries that most Canadians probably would like to move away from.

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        Yes, 't Kikkerland can always do with more friends and allies, but technically 't Huis van Oranje became extinct several centuries ago 😇

        As for the Orange in charge at Canada’s southern border, not so much.

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        20 days ago

        Of fucking course!! If you can get to Ontario and need help getting settled/staying here please DM me. All queer folx are welcome at my house and in my country!!

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          Bless! I’ve been looking at relocating to Toronto since I live nearby. It’s intimidating to sell my home and quit my job to move to a new country, so I’m dragging my feet to see how bad things really get here.

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              Valid. The cost of living there would barely afford me a life, though. I have no safety net. So do I dive into the very real possibility of homelessness willingly, or do I hope that the US can’t realistically put 1.3 million trans Americans into camps?

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        Canada has always been refuge / safe haven for America’s downtrodden, starting with African victims of their transatlantic slave trade.

        The Fugitive Slave Acts, passed by Congress in 1793 and 1850, mandated the capture and return of escaped enslaved people to their owners, even in free states. The 1850 law was particularly harsh, denying accused fugitives the right to testify or have jury trials. Federal marshals faced $1,000 fines for non-enforcement, while anyone helping escapees faced six months imprisonment and fines. The law prompted fierce Northern opposition and drove approximately 15,000 free Blacks to flee to Canada.

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        Yeah. The Anschluss-Thing is a little bit more complicated than just “Germany annexed another country because it wanted to”.

        The German unification was just ~60 years beforehand and during this time it was a real possibility (or at least it was widely discussed) that all german speaking territories would join the newly formed nation, including the german speaking part of Austria-Hungary. The idea was again discussed after the collapse of Austria-Hungary in 1918. So the idea was still in the heads of the people.

        Additionally Austria had a strong pro-nazi movement, so a large part of the country just accepted the new leadership.

        In present day Canada there is no strong movement to join the US. There is a huge cultural divide. The last time the idea, that Canada should join the US, was seriously discussed over a hundred years ago. The last time the border moved was in 1908. So for basically everyone alive, the US-Canada-Border is just a fact of life.

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          After the failed nazi coup in Austria, a referendum was organized to democratically decide whether to join Germany or not. But one day before the referendum, German troops marched in. The referendum was changed and postponed a month. Threats and coercion were employed to manipulate the vote, resulting in 99% approval for the Anschluss. While the population’s true opinions are unknown, it has been estimated that about 70% of Austrians would have voted to preserve Austrian independence.

          In hindsight it is obvious to us what was going on.

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    19 days ago

    Is Canada supposed to be afraid of a country that couldn’t defeat Vietnamese rice farmers and Afghan goatherders?

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      I mean, the US military absolutely can and will roflstomp traditional governments and heirarchies. Both the Taliban (2001) Saddam’s gov’t were steamrolled. The followup of holding territory and “winning hearts and minds” is where they fall on their face.

      And this threat really seems to be for the Canadian government and ‘elite’ rather than the people.

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        17 days ago

        Both the Taliban

        You didn’t get the memo? The US ran from Afghanistan with it’s tail between it’s legs, while the Taliban rules there and is now literally untouchable. The US’s “steamrolling” isn’t as impressive as you believe it to be.

        “winning hearts and minds”

        The US can’t even win “hearts & minds” in Bumfucksville, Arizona any more.

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          The Taliban did return, but I seriously doubt that there was much, if any, continuity of leadership between the two governments. We (the Allied Powers) destroyed Nazi Germany, but their ideological descendents still managed to fester and erupt some 80 years later.

          The point still holds that the threat made here is not against the common Canadian, but instead to the leadership that would be targeted.

          As for your point on Arizona, I’m having trouble parsing it. Do you mean to say that the residents do not support the US government? US adventurism? The Democratic/Republican Party?

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            but their ideological descendents still managed to fester

            That’s because the US and their liberal European collaborators went out of their way to preserve fascism in Europe. The US tried to destroy the Taliban - and now the Taliban is essentially untouchable (which they most definitely weren’t before). You get a lot of political credibility on your home turf for defeating the US - just ask Vietnam.

            I’m having trouble parsing it.

            The whole reason there is a fascist resurgence is because liberalism has been exposed as a pack of lies. That started even before the 2008 recession, and now one of liberalism’s holiest cows - Zionism - is collapsing right before everyone’s eyes.

            No more carrot for the US - now there will only be the stick. “Hearts & Minds” had absolutely nothing to do with the brown people they were dropping napalm and willy pete on - the target of “Hearts & Minds” was always the people doing the dropping.

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    19 days ago

    You have infinite Energy? enough wood?

    Pay your workers! let people have houses!

    let them take breaks, give them affordances!

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    19 days ago

    Just claim random insane bullshit that be easily disproven by a 5 year old, and don’t worry about it because the conspiracy theory and maga idiots will eat it up. You’re always right, remember?