• Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 month ago

    abandon your principles and become a totally-not-a-fascist™ like me, it’s the only way to overthrow capitalism!!!1!!

    You are deeply unserious.

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      1 month ago

      Ask yourself this, how do you think your revolution, whatever revolution you think is necessary to install your ideology, is going to go 50 years after it’s successful and you’ve been attacked constantly on all sides and from within by the enemy?

      Turns out we can answer that, you won’t make it 50 years, you won’t make it five if you stick to principles doomed to fail.

      China isn’t a fascist state, they’re not an imperialist state. They’re an unapologetic dictatorship of the proletariat, and the only country still around that has executed billionaires, plural. Are they communist? No, no state can be communist given that statelessness is required. But they have an open democracy where all citizens can participate, a government that explicitly follows the will of the people, and an economy that favors the workers and has pulled more people out of poverty than all other economic systems combined. All without really violating human rights.

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        They’re on unapologetic dictatorship of the proletariat…

        Lol. Lmao. If the proletariat holds all the power in China, why are their wages and working conditions worse than they are in other capitalist countries? Why do they have billionaires? Why can’t they join unions other than the one that’s run by the state?

        …they have an open democracy where all citizens can participate…

        Does that include the Uyghurs? Does that include the Tibetans?

        All without without really violating human rights.

        You can’t come up with a couple of human rights that the PRC may have violated? Not a single one. Yeah righto champ 👍

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      Capitalism will run your defenseless little commune over and salt the earth where it stood just to spite you. Ask me how I know: what did this dogmade country do to my people’s leaders? Again, and again, and again, until the closest thing we have to earnest “civil rights leaders” anymore are sitting in prison under false government slander of being foreign-backed agents?

      You want to talk about “deeply unserious” and don’t even have a meterstick to measure how deep in the water you are, or floaties to keep from sinking-- you clearly can’t swim.

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        1 month ago

        If your revolution requires abandoning your principles and installing a fascistic leadership then what’s the fucking point of your revolution in the first place?

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          What “abandonment of principles”? Unless it’s one of your principles to not actually fight your oppressor in any meaningful way, in which case, I consider you little more than a fetishist of martyrdom. Do-nothing.

          I love how you totally ignore that this country has been locking up my people’s leaders, too. What, should it be one of my ‘principles’ to forget that this nation is fundamentally racist towards me and mine, and will not liberate us until we as a disciplined formation and state, demand liberation at gunpoint and knife’s edge?

          Y’know what: since you’re such an enlightened settler, you tell me how you’d secure liberation for your people in such hostile conditions to your people’s comfort, safety, and self-determination.