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Donald Trump’s re-election has fueled a surge in misogynistic, homophobic, and racist rhetoric among young men, reportedly emboldened by the president-elect’s history of inflammatory remarks about women.

In schools, boys have been caught using phrases like “your body, my choice” against female peers, prompting districts like Minnesota’s Hopkins Public Schools to issue warnings to parents about harassment.

The impact extends beyond schools, with activists on Texas State University’s campus displaying signs asserting that “women are property.”

This hostile climate has left many women feeling unsafe as a new far-right administration takes power.

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      College-educated white women backed Harris. All college-educated groups did. Maybe Democrats should work on making college more affordable, and accessible to women with small children. Frankly we should anyway. We should also start helping girls that get pregnant in high school finish with their diploma so college will be an option in their future. Especially since more of them are going to be forced to carry the pregnancy to term.

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        Maybe Democrats should work on making college more affordable

        Why do you think the wingers reacted so much to having loan forgiveness? Anything that educates more people is something they fear. Having people not being saddled with crippling debts after school only sends a message to others that maybe education is a path for them. The wingers don’t want an educated citizenry.

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          No, the gop has weaponized anti-intelectualism. The reds won’t vote for a candidate that wants to make college affordable.

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            Indeed. The qons will call anyone with a degree an “elitist” [1], meanwhile, give the likes of Elon and the convicted felon, who are actual elitists, reacharounds. It’s almost as if actual meanings of words mean nothing to them.

            [1] This does not apply to their own kind, even if they were born rich AF and went to Ivy League school(s).

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          I see you don’t like “right wing” any more than I do, because I think they justify their actions by thinking “we must be right, we’re the right wing.” So I call them the Wrong Wing.

          Or sometimes the Human-Rights-Destroying Wing.

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        The DoE is already under attack. It’s part of Project 2025, and they’re laying the groundwork for it already. They’re going to work hard to ensure education is difficult to access and/or neutralized as much as possible.

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        No, democrats need to adjust their messages to people without a college education.

        One of the things that makes Trump so popular is that he panders to people without much education.

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          A better-educated public is a net gain regardless who’s running the government.

          Better educated women are less trapped in abusive relationships, although it still happens, because they have better job prospects and better chance to get law on their side.

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        Article filled with examples of men expressing hatred and misogyny towards women

        “Ayup, no one hates women more than other women!”

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          You still can’t deny that women do hate women here.

          53 percent of women hate women with that additional 10 percent of young women that voted to hate women.

          I mean I’m willing to give women as a whole a quarter as a condolence prize since they played themselves.

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            Sorry not allowed to acknowledge the fault of any woman, it’s all men’s fault in the end. /s

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      We thought we could bargain with and persuade “conservatives”. They voted for this, they are okay with women dying in hospitals because the doctors can’t legally intervene. The supposed “Pro Life” party. I wasn’t okay with abortion early in my male, hetero, American, white, life but now I see. They are only pro-fetus. Once a child is born, Republicans don’t care if they starve, if they have access to clean water, if they can afford food, if they have shelter, if they are raped, etc… Multiply that by about 100x if they don’t have white skin.

      “Conservatives” are almost as bad as MAGAts, and just as unreachable with reason, logic, and empathy. I don’t have a solution, I’m just pissed off. And I’m far from the most-harmed people will be the result of this greed, racism, apathy, and hate. Sorry…

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      Inaccurate. 53% of white women who voted voted for this. A lot sat out and let it happen.

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      as i just said in another comment, it scares me to see this shit AGAIN.

      this narrative is not making women any safer!

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          which truth is that, that no one hates women like other women?

          look at the current climate, i see a lot of woman-hating from all sides, including supposed allies on the left looking for a scapegoat. the oversimplified victim-blaming of dumping our president-elect at the feet of women (again) demonstrates very little understanding of gendered power dynamics and very little effort to build coalition.

          to this i would add the threads blaming racial and ethnic minorities, the poor, and the poorly educated.

          do you want less suffering in the world, or are you no better than the right in looking for someone to blame, and someone whose suffering you can enjoy because, “they asked for it, they voted for it, they deserve it?”

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            The truth is 53 percent of white women including 10 percent increase of young white women voted for the behavior. Behavior mind you were say on full force since 2016 and white women voted for again.

            As for me, when I being a minority, when I voted for Harris, knowing full well who Trump and company, was looking to my back, didn’t expect 53 percent of white women of stabbing me and other women in the back. And seeing as white women voted for more suffering so I’m going to enjoy the schadenfreude because I’m sure as hell tired of trying to bail the country out from the stupidity of Americans in general. If that makes me as bad as the right, I’m okay with that, at least I voted to not enable this behavior, unlike 53 percent of white women who literally voted for this behavior.

            White women need to get there shit in order so fix your own shit before you get all huffy with everyone else who are tired of trying to save you from yourselves.

            Again, you should talk to other white women about that.

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    Wow, the guy who bragged about how he sexually assaults anyone he finds attractive, talked about how he had the same “on the younger side” tastes as his best friend Jeff, talked about how he liked hosting beauty pageants because it gave him an excuse to walk in on girls while they were changing, etc emboldened other people to act the same way? Utter shock. This could never have been anticipated

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      It was December 21st 2012. The Mayans were right. A timeline ended and were falling into some clown mirror black hole ever since or something.

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      Tbh, for me, I’m realizing it’s triggering a sort of sea-change in terms of how I, as a citizen, want to interact with American society.

      Laws, ethics, human dignity and empathy clearly aren’t important to people here. Money and power are. This is fully incongruent with my personal beliefs in a variety of fundamental ways. I’ve tried to aim my career at areas that are going to help better society - that’s a big part of why I work at an oncology-focused biotech now. But like… I’m faced with the realization that this country just doesn’t share my values, and doesn’t actually care that I willingly take markedly less compensation than, say, working at Meta, and it’s primarily because I want to make the world a better place.

      I admit it’s starting to feel like an abusive relationship. I don’t think the world is going to become a better place in my lifetime. It’s going to get a lot worse in a lot of ways. My initial reaction was to begin taking steps to just fully fuck off from this country, and find someplace else with a society that hasn’t fully eaten itself. Try to keep my sanity and ethics in one piece by finding a new society to call home that’s not America.

      But I ALSO have begun to realize in the last couple days that there’s another darker path I could take that denys the society I’ve honestly come to resent pretty strongly the my true capabilities and abusive consumption of my efforts: Malicious compliance. I could just fully jettison my ethical guidelines and engineering principles and simply min/max the absolute fuck out of comp and just retire early. Work for Meta or OpenAI or some health insurance company or whatever the fuck is the absolute most lucrative job I can find and just fully shoot for leadership metrics, not really fucking caring about the toxicity of the management class, the morale or well being of my team, the impact my work has on society, the quality, reliability, and integrity of the code I ship, or any of that ivory tower crap I’ve previously held as crucial elements to my profession. Stop trying to move the needle in the right direction. All gas, no brakes. If this country is determined to not give a fuck, why should I? Why shouldn’t I try to get to a place in my career where I can just retire, or do whatever I want without worrying too much about the personal consequences, because I can just fuck off at my own discretion due to money?

      And the second, darker option has the added benefit that I wouldn’t have to essentially abandon my family here, who are definitely not considering moving away as seriously as I am. My parents are both not in the best of health; maybe I should try to at least spend some more time closer to them before I just fuckin leave - or at least, as long as I can stand it here before the “fuck off and leave” route is truly the only viable option.

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        America is dead to me. As a European, I already had a pretty negative view of the states, I especially hate the worse parts of American culture that seep in into our lives, since sniffing US ass is what we do best apparently. But now, what makes America any better than let’s say Russia? The fact that people have running water at home? America doesn’t even have a human rights committee! This moment for ever changes how I see Americans, a sort of no way back. It’s a nation of bloodthirsty traitors! Blessings and good luck to anybody who still has a hint of normalcy in them. May you one day rebirth your country as a force for good once again.

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          Please do not make us a monolith. I am not my country, I was just born here. That kind of thinking leads to radicalism and violence. I can perfectly understand caution with “unknowns” from a group you have reason to be concerned about. Honestly from a personal safety standpoint we do this all the time. But to unilaterally decide we are all one thing and write us off (or worse) is false and dangerous.

          I don’t know where you are in Europe but I love the continent and have visited many countries there. I do my best to be respectful when I visit and look up local cultures and norms so I don’t stand out and be “that American.” I’m not ashamed of being an American tourist, but I don’t want to adhere to the worst of our stereotypes. If other countries’ people decide we are inherently dangerous, being annoying may be the least of my worries should I have the fortune of making another trip there.

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            I’m sorry to let my emotions spill out… It’s just… It’s hard to describe how fucking angry it makes me, that the country we bend over backwards for, the self proclaimed beacon of freedom and liberty, is now the beacon of rape and war! My only hope is that Trump is so exceptionally egotistical, that getting his dick sucked from every nation will result in his indecisiveness when it comes to taking firm sides. And that we finally start standing on our own two feet…

            And why? Because the average American voter is too sexist to elect a woman? Or maybe because the only two parties are pathological liars aiming to satisfy their sponsors vs literal rabies infested monsters? Or maybe voters really don’t look at what candidates are actually saying. It doesn’t matter what the reason is, but America as a country mustn’t be relied upon.

            You have a known and confirmed rapist, convicted felon and Russian collaborator elected as president…AND OVERWHELMINGLY SO!?! If Trump’s presidency turns out anything like Project2025 or continues down the “Russin/North Korea is our friend, gotta kill the enemy within” route, we might very well have another great war on our hands.

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              As an American, it’s hard to describe how fucking angry and aghast I am at both my countrymen and our one not-overtly-fascist party. I’m right there with you.

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              I understand (from my American perspective of course). I live in a swing state in the U.S. that went for Trump. I have the same fears and can only hope if war results from us that it is kept within the borders of this country. Obviously I would prefer violence not be the end result regardless.

              Please just know that there are many many people here that are just as concerned and fearful as you are. The people I know that voted for him are either woefully uneducated or are misled by their religion (which in and of itself is a form of ignorance/being uneducated). And while they can still be dangerous, the true fascist zealots are still a minority.

              I cannot excuse the people here who voted for this, at this point all I can say is that I am a human, you are a human. I don’t want you to hurt, I’m pretty darn sure you don’t want me to hurt. Let’s do our best to separate this fucking mess from the individual humans who are stuck in it and on the periphery of it, and hope to hell none of us become collateral damage.

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        I’m feeling the same mostly. I don’t make as much money as you, but I’m ok because I don’t have kids and I’m in a low COL area. Which means I travel much of the time and leave my wife undefended. She is open to getting a pistol and learning. I’m getting a rifle. We can’t leave because her mom is elderly and will not leave. Hell we’ve just got her convinced to move 20 miles to live with us.

        Once her mom lives out her life we will have options. We can see how bad it plays out. I want to move to Uruguay or Costa Rica badly.

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        I originally wanted to do what you’ve done, but eventually fell on the idea that the country is essentially beyond saving. Should this hold true, the best option then is to join a grassroots movement and begin building an alternative economy from the ground up as a ready replacement for the collapse of the current system. Join a socialist organization, work for a land trust, start building cooperatives and alternative food systems, etc.

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        When I have gone through this thought process lately, I’ve concluded that even if I plan my life in the most cold robotic way possible, my mental health and general well-being are at their best when I am compassionate towards those around me.

        So first you must ask yourself what your true goal is. Do you want to “win” some shallow materialistic version of life? Or do you want to help others, or just be happy regardless of what it takes? Then that helps inform later decisions.

        My automatic assumption has always been that saving everything, retiring early, and being a recluse was my path to a happy existence. It’s just what I felt I wanted to do. I bet I’m not alone there.

        But then I had the great luck to have COVID come around and fuck up my career and finances in a few different ways. Now I’m stable again at work and my finances are a disaster, but I’ve waded through so much shit mentally that even though big retirement account balances feel great, that’s not what creates real joy, contentment, and even optimism.

        …In my brain anyway. It’s like we all have slightly different owners manuals but we don’t get a copy of it and have to reverse-engineer it. In my case I had some things I cared about a lot get torn away, but I still had my family, and I realized that without that stuff that got taken away I was still the same person and was just fine. That definitely flipped a switch or two. Well, that and a grueling couple years dialing in medications, lol. Anything that helps!

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          I do understand what you’re saying. But at the same time, the foundation of the premise you’re presenting begs the question “do I still consider this society worth saving”? And quite frankly, I can no longer give an unambiguous “yes” to that question. THAT is what I mean when I say the result of this election has made my sense of misanthropy spin wildly out of control.

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            Oh yeah I get that. The disbelief and disappointment are off the charts for me.

            But to continue my train of thought, what’s worked well for my mental state is to give myself permission to focus on the small scale and those close to me rather than (justifiably) dwelling on the fucked up state of society at large.

            So instead of worrying about whether society is worth saving, I worry about whether my own sanity is worth saving, and by extension whether it is worth trying to have a happy and fulfilling life. And that’s not just being selfish. It’s equivalent to putting on your own oxygen mask on an airplane before you help others. With my head on straight, I can help improve the lives of those around me, and that is not only worth it but feeds back into making my own life and mental state better.

            And from time to time I also like to remind myself about how insane it is that we even exist, that clouds of matter formed billions of years ago in supernovae were able to coalesce and form self-aware brains. It just makes me more interested in learning about existence and the universe.

            And when I point that attitude towards the fucked up things in society and the world, it certainly doesn’t make those things better. I think about how I am watching significant history being written, and I can at least be an engaged witness even if I can’t change the course of that history. Though I do try where I can, and of course vote accordingly.

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    Anybody who’s surprised should take a deep look in the mirror. You bitches elected a literal rapist into the white house. This is the “great” leader republicans rally behind!

      • This is all those bastards at CERN’s fault! Somehow the LHC pulled us into a shittier universe where Hitler 2.0 rises to power and there is a series of books called “The Barenstain Bears” instead of “The Bearenstein Bears.”

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          Before you criticise, you should have seen the alternative timelines! If we had switched on sooner, we might have been able to avoid this one, but we didn’t.

          All I will say is imagine a Trump with a triple digit IQ and competent advisors. It was horrifying. Multiple techs took compassionate leave after seeing some of the projections. Poor mark still can’t make himself enter the building!

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      They’re absolutely sending their best.

      The problem is what they’re best at is being Maga assholes.

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        I think op’'s comment was a dig at Trump’s anti-immigration stance. He often said the same thing except substitute the word immigrants.

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            Don’t say that, the concept of the middle class is so that the poor people thing they have more money than other people and won’t revolt

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                The important part is to make your subscription to your car and your subscription to your house a big enough part of your pay check, so that you are afraid if you use too much electricity your budget for your food will not be enough. For everyone else make sure they need Netflix, HBO, YouTube premium, reddit coins, and every thing else to get into the same situation

                Then make it so you are afraid to lose your job because you can’t save up for a rainy day fund.

                Then be afraid of the rain

                Now the rest is slowly boiling the frog, so you are used to it

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          I am legit debating about quitting my job because my supervisor (in NJ) said that he didn’t vote because he didn’t like either candidates, he felt his Christian values were not embodied by either of the candidates. I just wanted to be like “bitch, how about at least vote against someone who spits at those values”. Up until now I respected him, I thought he was knowledgeable at work and just assumed that he would be knowledgeable about outside world too.

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        And people need to stop giving that 40% a free ride. They also wanted this. Fuck them.

        We have the same issue in Ontario where our conservative leader Doug Ford won a majority with like 19% of Ontarians actually voting for him. This means for the majority of Ontarians they were comfortable sitting at home fingering their grandma. So fuck them yes they did want this.

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        71MM to 74MM as of right now on CNN. Trump nearly the same number of votes he got in 2020, within ~30k or so.

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      5.5 million out of over 300 million is hardly a majority.

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        More like 74.2 millions out of over 231 millions eligible to vote. Still not a majority, but the 86 millions who didn’t vote are at least complicit. And 160 millions are a majority.

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      The correct response is “If I’m going to jail because abortion is murder, I may as well kill my rapist”

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          Also ignores the power dynamic at play. The boy while complain to his Trump-loving teacher and the teacher will call the principal and the principal will call the police and the police will come and arrest the child and then take her to jail where other cops will rape her.

          And if you talk about the epidemic of child abuse in police custody or the long history of sexual violence by cops, you’re hurting the Democrats in the next election.

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        We’re talking kids threatening other kids here. Lorena Bobbitt will mean nothing to them. A knee to the nuts, on the other hand…

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          well it might give them something to ask about from their parents and spread it around in so doing. but yeah a knee is a good idea in the moment

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            When dealing with an active threat, a response that the assailant can ignore afterwards is a useless response.

            I’m teaching my daughter the same lesson I was taught. You never start a fight but you sure do end it.

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      As an Ai I can’t say whether you’re fucked or not, but it sure seems to be heading that direction

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    Calm down, everyone. Remember, both sides are the same. Harris would have been absolutely no different.

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      In all seriousness, I expect a torrent of Tone Police popping up everywhere, telling everyone to Stop Being So Mean To Deplorables ™.

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      Remember, both sides are the same.

      Thumbing a picture of Jeffrey Epstein besides Bill Clinton and Donald Trump

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        Ok and? We weren’t trying to elect Bill Clinton you fucking mouth breathing cretin.

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          We weren’t trying to elect Bill Clinton

          Clinton was a major campaigner and bundler for the Harris administration. And he’s just the most blindingly obvious example. David Shor, Harris’s campaign chairperson, is also a well known creep.

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        What does this have to do with ANYTHING. It shows brain damage. You should get your brain checked.

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    Also, I’m afraid this is not just a “spike”, per se, but more like a prelude to much worse, including not just threats.

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    Yeah, the “I do not want to vote for the lesser evil” crowd was literally saying the misogyny out loud for all to see.

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      Those of good conscience running in fear from orange stupidity didn’t understand why others of good conscience were digging trenches: You can’t outrun stupid. We fight or we die.

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          I mean… yes and no. Pretty much exactly the same voted for Trump this time compared to last time. 11 million less people voted for Harris compared to Biden in 2020. This was a lot of things, but it was much less of a GOP victory than it was a DNC loss. Once again: world fucking champions at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

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            But Biden is a man. I wonder how many of the 11 million opted out for just that difference alone. Hard to ever know, I guess.

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              Back when Hilary was running, I was involved in a political discussion with the two older guys I was on the job with. One man said to the other, why do you think she can’t be a good president? The other man yelled “She’s a goddamn woman!”

              These people exist in numbers.

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                Yep. It is all too common. What is really weird is how many women I heard give really stupid reasons not to vote for Hillary - and then voted third party or actually for diaper donnie.

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                It’s not just men that believe this either. Internalised misogyny is still a thing, unfortunately.

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              Yeah, that’s the other thing that baffles me. Like, don’t get me wrong - I wish it wasn’t the case, but the American electorate is clearly racist and sexist. So what does the DNC do? Nominate (or really, designate) a non-white lady. 🤦‍♂️

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                I totally get this. I wonder if they will be this fucking stupid the next time around, assuming we still have elections.

                When Biden was not stepping down at first, I was like, well, we are fucked. Then he selected her and I thought the same. Then she came out of the gate and it was like the dawning of a new day, especially when she picked Walz and my hopes went up. Then they started hemming Walz in, and she started tacking to the right?

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                  For real they should have just straight up picked Walz as the nominee. He was WAY better at connecting with normal people than Harris was. And he was a white dude, which in America, translates to “a viable candidate”.

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      Weren’t the Gilead states [1] already doing measures like that under Biden? I thought people (sheriffs, deputies, “concerned” citizens) were watching certain roads that led to free states like Colorado.

      [1] I still chuckle at a certain poster on Denver Post forums that would whine every single time I used that phrase, claiming there was no such thing. I’d ask him if he didn’t think his own con movement and Republican Party weren’t striving for exactly that kind of treatment. He never had an answer of course. But he’d go whining to the mods about it and how unfair it was to point out their own agenda.