The sad thing is all these whiplash fast reversals of propaganda still have no meaningful impact on the western propagandized mind. They don’t notice despite being months apart, the contradictions never reach them. They just go from one thing to the next, from smirking to seething without beginning to question whether hmm maybe the media is lying to them. It’s just incredible. Because it used to be a process that took years from falsehood to truth reveal. Incredible and incredibly saddening too.
Yeah that’s the most depressing aspect of the whole thing.
A more accurate title for the second article would be: “Challenger 2: The British tank that’s never been destroyed by the enemy (because it has never been in a peer2peer conflict teehee)”
Putin’s conscripts
I wonder how long until we see headlines like “Putin’s slave hordes”.
Putin’s orcs
British-made tanks are about to sweep Putin’s conscripts aside
Yay, our war machines will kill more people. But we’ll call them “Putin’s conscripts”, as if they are inanimate units controlled by the evil Putin personally, and not real people.
What’s particularly funny here is that this is literally the first recorded instance of a challenger in action. The very first tank that crawled out of hiding got immediately taken out. 😂
In action in Ukraine or worldwide? Asking because I’m pretty sure there were videos circulating of a Challenger being hit twice allegedly by an RPG-7. Which was usually cited if the tank’s professed invincibility was brought to question
I’m pretty sure they have been taken out before as well, but yeah this is the first time a Challenger surfaced in Ukraine.
some impressive brain rot in that thread, here’s another banger thread https://lemmy.ml/post/4384049
I see world news on lemmy.ml is indistinguishable from reddit now
Yeah, unless something make to the top feed on hexbear and they join, it’s cesspool identical to r/worldnews
pretty much yeah, I gotta say the meltdowns when hexbear joins in are absolutely hilarious to watch
I got front row seats at watching that community just degrade into full reddit lib territory. I remember when I first joined lemmy, and if I said I was a socialist over there it was taken mostly in stride. Now it’s just reddit.
For a period of time I kept a secondary lemmy account on .ml , mostly for posting on things we were defederated from, but I have more or less abandoned that account. It was bad for my blood pressure.
I’ve had my account on lemmy.ml for years now, and I also feel that it turned into a whole different community over the past few months. Now that hexbear is federating at least that keeps libs in check a bit. It’s pretty hilarious to watch the meltdowns they’re having over the fact that their view is no longer the majority.
One of the top comments is talking about how much corruption there must be in the Russian military to waste so much of their budget.
They must think the entirety of the US military budget is used for exactly the things it is earmarked for.
Libs think that “the enemy” is automatically worse in every single way. So if they hear people talking about corruption in the US military, the enemy military must be even more corrupt. Good guys win, bad guys lose, the west are the good guys and Russia are the bad guys, therefore Russia is losing, which means every lost Ukrainian must mean a hundred lost Russians, Russia is just lying about their losses. They live in a post-truth world where things are decided by vibes and not by reality.
about that thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWoG8IckyE
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It appears the Challenger 2… wasn’t up to the challenge. Heh.
I promise that Russia will lose the war tomorrow.
I have it on good authority that they spent their last bit of ammo destroying the Challenger.
I’m from the future, can confirm they lost.
We’re talking about The China Bad Times Expanded Universe canon right?
Exactly 24hrs later. You were right! Can I have next week’s lottery numbers, please?
Oh hey, I was just wondering about those the other day! We’ve seen Leo’s getting blown, but not these.
But don’t worry, they’ll just move the goalposts, as always. “Never been destroyed by enemy fire!” This happens “Akschually this was artillery, we meant never been destroyed by enemy tank fire!” Five minutes later “Yeah well at least it can shrug off RPGs!” Five minutes later “Yeah well at least the crew survived so take that, tankie! I’m not owned! I’m not owned!!!111”
Or, you know, just pretend it didn’t happen.
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Today the Challenger, tomorrow the F16.
Assuming F16s ever make it there.
If they make it there and they have an airfield functional enough that they are able to deploy it from.
lol yeah that too, f16 intake is basically a vacuum cleaner for the runway 😂
Challenger 2 is the worst western tank.
The Abrams is probably giving that a run for their money, what with requiring a constant supply of jet fuel to even idle (since jet turbines can’t idle) and a heat signature visible from low orbit.
That didn’t age well
need the links plssss
oh here
- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/british-made-tanks-about-to-sweep-putins-conscripts-aside/
- https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/05/ukraine-has-lost-its-first-challenger-2-tank/
and couldn’t find the exact one for the middle, but this one’s close enough where it claims it’s never experienced a loss due to enemy action https://www.forces.net/ukraine/what-would-challenger-2-tank-mean-ukrainian-defence
incredible satire from the telegraph lol, thanks
This might be the first time we’re witnessing western propaganda unravel in real time. It used to be that they’d feed people a bunch of bullshit, everybody would internalize it, and then years later, when it no longer mattered, we’d get the revelations. Now, we’re seeing the narrative come apart within months of being published.
the Guardian says the crew “survived”.
You wouldn’t know them tho they’re in another tank
We’re about to learn whether it takes the years-in-the-middle-bit to sustain the liberal suspension of disbelief. My guess is 90:10 will be able to erase the contradiction from their consciousness just as easily as if there were a decade gap between hearing the propaganda and finding out the truth.