“Based on your consent, we may collect and use your biometric information for safety, security, and identification purposes,” The revised policy of X(Twitter) is expected to go into effect on September 29, 2023.

The thing is, biometric data is permanent and can’t be changed. If we share that with X, it could mean lifelong privacy risks. And seriously, I can’t think of a single reason why Elon needs to know where I went to high school for data security purposes.

People keep talking about leaving Twitter, but when will they actually do that? I guess they’ll just keep putting up with it, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

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    Just for you guys to know, a Saudi teacher got death sentence over tweets, cuz it is linked to his identity, and now Elon even wants more specific data from users? People need to give up on Twitter!

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      Apparently, Elon did not get any lesson from the Saudi man’s death at all. Its so important for people to remain anonymous in the digital world.

      Try this, I found people talking about this on Lemmy: https://www.alchemy.com/dapps/wiremin

      So I downloaded, and from my experience so far on this decentralized social network, it has the ability to replace Twitter for those who care about privacy and are concerned with data breaches.

      • Using an Anonymous ID, it does not require either an email or a phone number when creating accounts.
      • It is decentralized, with no central cloud server to store our data.
      • There is no censorship; no one can ban your account or remove your content.
      • It connects the world widely, so no single country, government, or person can manipulate the content we see.
      • The feed/chat space, DMs, voice calls, and fast file/pic transfers are all end-to-end encrypted.
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      Part of the problem is…people were suspended FOR NO REASON & now their data is not recoverable + they can’t delete their accounts.

      They (I) are basically trapped.

      (unless you live in a country that offers “user protections”…what a concept.)

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      For safety and security of dictators around the the world, so its easier for them to identify critiques.

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      Security is what pretty much all companies use when collecting data. It’s designed to stop you dead. Many people have been conditioned to see “security” as necessary.

      Calls may be recorded for security and training purposes.

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    That’s not all. The company has further outlined in its upcoming privacy policy it “may use the information we collect and publicly available information to help train our machine learning or artificial intelligence models.”

    All artists better get the fuck off that plattform. I doubt he will stop at text.

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      I imagine that’s going to be policy of most commercial online platforms going forward if the AI boom continues.

      User pressure might keep it away from dedicated art sharing platforms, but general purpose social media will end up open season as a source of training data.

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        It already has. That’s why Twitter and reddit have tightened their API policies and locked down websites for non-signed in users. Not to prevent AI training… just so they can charge for it.

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    This increasing interest in biometric data, not just from “X”, is concerning to say the least

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    How exactly do they plan to collect biometric data? In most platforms biometric data remains on device.

    Perhaps Elmo will try spinning some sort of WorldCoin style biometric crypto scheme next.

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      They’ll simply ask for it and people will give it in order to keep using the platform.

      Google Ads asked me (a private individual) to provide my drivers license or passport in order to verify an organization’s Google Ads account, or else the account will be suspended. I understand verifying the organization via governed registration records, that makes sense. But requiring an emoloyee or volunteer’s passport?

      The account is just going to get suspended.

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        Besides the IRS who could give them that info?

        The users themselves, in their stupidity, like every single time in the past.

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          Then that data is going to be unreliable, because people will embellish and outright lie when sharing.

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        he already tested out a job listings tab so he’ll just collect it from users that way.

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        How exactly would a phone camera get a clear image of your retina? I very much doubt anything like this is possible but maybe I’m missing something

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            I mean how would this work though, even assuming that technology hurdle is cleared (definitely doubting it, a slightly dark room can totally hose a cell phone photo)?

            The Twitter app has to request camera use and then ask the user to do that. What possible benefit would there be for the user?

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      If there’s a photo of you anywhere on The-Platform-Formerly-Known-As-Twitter, then that’s it. That’s biometric data.

      People have this weird idea that “biometric data” needs some special scanning process like in movies. As if some green laser needs to sweep across your body to “collect” biometric data.

      A photo is all that’s needed. That’s it.

      You read these articles that talk about “the dangers of biometrics” (in the context of facial recognition) and they often cite that the database can be hacked and people’s biometric data will get stolen.

      That’s not a concern. Every system that captures biometric data for later use is completely different than the next system. It would be like trying to run an Android app on an iPhone.

      Actually, it’s very much like the pre-IBM days. There were many different computer systems that weren’t compatible with each other. Biometrics is like that, but 100 times more incompatible. Each system needs a ground truth photo to generate the model/template/biometric data.

      So I’ll say it again, if there’s a photo of you on Former-Twitter, even a profile photo, they have your biometrics.

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    Ahh yes, the company owned by Elon Musk, who famously called a diver a “pedophile” for criticizing his coffin submarine idea to rescue some kids. He’s also slashed budgets and cut manpower in all the important departments at twitter. That’s the person I’m most likely to trust with my personal information.

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    The issue here isn’t that Elon wants your biometric data.

    The issue is that there will be a bunch of absolute idiots who freely give him their data.

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      The issue here isn’t that Elon wants your biometric data.

      No, that is the issue. Everyone can decide if they want to or not. I assume that most here are smart enough not to.

      The issue is that there will be a bunch of absolute idiots who freely give him their data.

      If people want to give that info away, then who am I to stop them?

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        I think it’s naive to frame it as “wanting to give data” but more that they’re allowing themselves to be exploited because many simply don’t even know what’s in the policy, there are many who concede that they can’t do without the platform, and then simply folks who don’t know better. I highly doubt there’s any significant number of people who understand the policy and happily consent even if they could easily give up the platform instead.

        So I think they’re both problems. A platform needing data beyond what’s necessary to provide the service AND that most people will either concede defeat or not know better.

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      & then “reality” will be shaped into an even more fucked up hell using that same data.

      Fuck this bullshit.

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      A large amount of people I know said that, and actually did it. For the rest, the alternatives are not big enough to farm clicks off ragebait and AI “art”

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    X is safe and effective?

    Since Elon has been very transparent about his goal of making X the everything app, by adding all this stuff and biometrics… For security?

    What could possibly go wrong?

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      He’s also friends with Putin & other autocrats.

      What could go wrong?

      Oh yeah…Elon has been known to ban every antifascist. & he wants access to all of their information.

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    Sadly, plenty of idiots will gladly hand over whatever he wants. Even if you COULD trust that he wouldn’t use your data for nefarious purposes, why would you want yet ANOTHER company to have the complete story of your life in a hackable database? Remember the Equifax data breach? Guess most people don’t.

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      Remember the Equifax data breach?

      Remember how we sent every C-level to prison for twenty years and fined the company out of existence? lol jk corporations are infallible and it’s our fault our data was held by a private company without our consent.

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    Well, most celebs and e-celebs should get off X pretty much immediately, because at this rate this data will inevitably gets leaked somewhere for a Blue Checkmark.

    Also, impersonating celebrities? On the Internet? Who would do such a thing?

    (Crypto is so dumb by the way.)