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      Are you not familiar with the United States since forever.

      How do you feel about trump making Jerusalem the capital? Trump will wipe Arabs off the map and complete Israeli takeover of the lands.

      Trump started the genocide with that move. Get a clue.

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        If anyone needs additional confirmation of what trump wants.

        “As president, I would end once and for all the mass importation of antisemitism into the United States,” he said. “Just as I did before, we will keep radical Islamic terrorists the hell out of our country. We were keeping them out.”

        “On day one, we’ll restore our travel ban. We had a travel ban because we didn’t want people coming into our country who really loved the idea of blowing our country up,” he said. He called the ban an “amazing success.”

        “We didn’t have one incident in four years, because we kept bad people out of our country,” he claimed.

        “I’ll also be implementing strong ideological screenings for all immigrants coming in,” he said. “If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you sympathize with jihadists, then we don’t want you in our country and you’re not going to be getting into our country.”

        Trump also said he would cancel student visas of Hamas sympathizers.

        “The college campuses are being taken over, and all of the resident aliens who joined in the pro-jihadist protests this month, nobody’s seen anything like it,” he said. “Come 2025, we will find you, and we will deport you.”

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        Are you not familiar with the United States since forever.

        They are not. Couple weeks ago they didn’t even know Israel and the US are allies, and they thought the US had a separate judicial system for religious affairs.

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        Are you not familiar with the United States since forever.

        To be completely honest I didn’t expect the US to stand by Israel despite a genocide. I didn’t expect the US to enable it, certainly not under a Democratic administration. Most definitely not right after they criticized Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. I didn’t expect this sheer amount of hypocrisy and dehumanization of the Palestinians by the Democratic Party. Just listen to John Kirby talk about both.

        How do you feel about trump making Jerusalem the capital?

        None issue. The Arab Peace Initiative from 2002 specifies East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. Under a 2-state solution, Israel could have had West Jerusalem as a capital. To be clear, I once supported a 2-state solution now I oppose Israel entirely.

        Trump will wipe Arabs off the map and complete Israeli takeover of the lands.

        Biden is doing it now, why else would the US veto multiple ceasefires in the UN? The Biden administration also tried persuading Arab countries to accept the 2.5 million Gazans to help Israel achieve its ethnic cleansing goals. I personally don’t expect either party to be successful in achieving this, and if the US government is stupid, it will get itself in another losing war in the Middle East. At which point with allies like Israel who needs enemies?

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      No, but in 2020 I didn’t vote for Trump.

      Ok. I guess you maybe voted Biden? Did he explicitly stand on not supporting Israel?

      Why did I get a genocide?

      You got a genocide?

      In the short term, genocide is happening because Hamas pissed Israel off one time too many and one time too much. In the long term, the genocide is happening because of historical and deep-rooted emnity between Israel and its neighbouring Arab states. It sucks. There are extremist arseholes on both sides who profit from continued conflict and violence against ‘the other’.

      Regardless, America doesn’t have absolute fiat in the region. Who you vote for makes little difference to what Netanyahu and Haniyeh will choose to do. But Trump is no less an ally of Israel than Biden is.

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        More genocide apologia and bad history. We are clearly on different teams.

        I’m not sure what’s the end goal of denying the genocide or giving the excuse that Israel is a geopolitical ally. Am I supposed to say “oh that makes the genocide okay, I will vote for Biden”? It is just more cruelty and dehumanization.

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          I’m not sure what ‘team’ you think I’m on.

          I agree that a one-sided genocidal war seems to be going on right now and I’m against it.

          What’s your solution?

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          That’s funny. I ask because you have expressed zero understanding of how the US government works multiple times recently. Yet you have no problem screaming the same bs everywhere you can.

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            Are you talking about First Past the Post and Winner Take All?

            I’m still not voting for the lesser evil. I think we are overdue to seriously consider a 3rd party, instead of choosing between two flavours of genocide.

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              I’m talking about you not understanding how the US government and elections work, and also you acknowledging Trump is worse than Biden. Yet you keep pushing bullshit 24/7 in every post you possibly can.

              I didn’t know the US had geopolitical relations with Israel.

              You also have some strange notion that the US has a separate religious court system.

              Sit down and shut up.