Tbf a lot of people just want a petty bourgeois vacation.

I’ve been on a socia media break, but I’ll post some memes.

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    This statement has always been crazy to me. Even when I wasn’t a Communist I didn’t really understand this, since for the overwhelming majority of human history, we didn’t even have Capitalism… Capitalism is around 400 years old, meanwhile recorded history is around 6000 years old.

    And I’m not even applying materialism here, this was when I was a lib lmao

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      If you question people who say this they will say “sure we didn’t call it capitalism but people were trading and selling to become richer since forever!”. And you try to explain that markets =/= capitalism and you see their eyes glass over and their brains shutdown.

      We say libs don’t know anything about communism, but they will die on a hill to defend capitalism and they know nothing about it either.

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      Libs don’t know what capitalism is, and they haven’t thought it through. “I think there were markets in Rome and markets = capitalism.” “I feel like it’s in my nature to be selfish, so it must have always been like this.”

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          Yeah. People are also just really confused right now, and don’t seem to think through things politically.

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            I think it also comes down to a lot of them simply not wanting to talk about politics or engaging with political content. Some just feel drained and mistreated by the system and just want to try to live a happy life. The depression epidemic is a real thing

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    I’ve seen people defend capitalism unironically by arguing that you can just go run off in the woods if you don’t like it, as if every square inch of land isn’t privately owned.

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    I mean yeah, I p much just by default despise the majority of the country. Would leave it in my rear-view if I made enough money to even be able to save to immigrate. I see no profit in saving the anglos.

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    Honestly, I’d probably choose something by the ocean. I DO NOT trust the deep woods in the US. I do not want to go out for a morning walk and see myself staring back at me from behind a tree further down the trail or some devious cryptid garbage like that.

    Miss me with that.

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      I’m not into cryptid stuff but I understand the sentiment with American woods. Lord knows how many dangerous people are just wandering around wilderness areas looking for random solo victims, given the USAs serial killer/mass murder numbers and how easy it is to get a gun. And it would impossible to ever find a killer like that.

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      It depends where you go. There are mountain lions in some parts as well. Coyotes and wolves are carnivores as well. Carnivores generally don’t go for dangerous prey unless there is nothing else to eat. Just get yourself high enough in the trees where the bears and coyotes can’t reach you when you are sleeping. If you are with a group of people closeby, they have enough sense to know that messing with one of you is a death sentence.

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          It will. Depends what type of bear though.

          A grizzly? Their fat butts slowly climb at a glacial pace. A black bear? No climbing as they are Olympic class climbers, but you stand, make yourself big, and “fight” as they are cowards and are terrified by confrontation.

          A polar bear? Lmao, get ready to die.

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            A grizzly will just knock the tree down if it can’t climb to you.

            Climbing a tree is delaying the inevitable with most animals. If they have decided to eat you and can’t reach you, they just wait.

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              What kind of small sad trees are you climbing?

              A grizzly is never knocking the down a bog standard regular oak tree.

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                  Ah makes sense. But still, most US forests are comprised of Oak, Ash, Maple, Elm, etc. All trees that wouldn’t even feel a bear crashing into them at max speed.

                  But still, unless the tree is fairly young, I genuinely feel like any pine that could carry a humans weight could easily shrug off a bear pushing on it.

                  Plus Grizzlys aren’t some psychopathic hunters. Even if they could push over the tree with enough time and effort, or even climb it since grizzilys can also climb (albeit much slower then black bears), they are opportunistic hunters and would probably deem the entire process a waste of effort and lose interest in most cases.

                  The vast majority of bear attacks are also because a parent feels that their cubs are threatened, so if the bear feels safe again it will most likely pull back.

                  This is also a worst case scenario. Either the bear is near death and can’t find other prey, or you realllllllllly pissed it off, both scenarios that are pretty rare.

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      I love being alone in the woods personally. I walk in the dark every morning. I’ve listened to missing 411 stories, and I feel fine since I’m not a small child.

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    Reminds me of that quote, IIRC from Capitalist Realism, “It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.” The way it’s ingrained in some people goes very deep. When their view is that it’s capitalism or nothing, it sort of makes sense their only view of an alternative is running away from it rather than confronting it.