• nailoC5@lemy.lol
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    8 months ago

    Is this a joke? In one of your recent comments you’re using the word Zionist negatively. That would already be considered hate speech somewhere.

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      8 months ago

      using the word Zionist negatively. That would already be considered hate speech somewhere.

      Which is also bullshit. Zionism is a political ideology, not an ethnicity. In fact, failing to make that distinction is antisemitism, as is the “Israel = Jewish people in general” bullshit that genocide deniers also use to silence dissent.

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      8 months ago

      “Some people incorrectly call me a bigot, therefore nothing should ever be done about bigotry ever.” Grow the fuck up

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        8 months ago

        I’m talking about the state, not whatever it is you choose to do in your personal capacity. I don’t care what you call me. I care if the state labels me something that they can jail me for. This article is about the state labeling pro-Palestine solidarity as extremist. I can’t speak for you, but I don’t think that the state should have the right to quell that speech. If you do, then I think we have fundamentally different philosophies.

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          8 months ago

          I’m 1000% against governments labeling criticism of Israel or support for Gaza hate speech too, but ffs the problem here isn’t that the government should just allow all hate speech all the time. If you think a republican’s right to say I’m a groomer and call for my execution/lynching is good or more important than my safety you can go fuck yourself (edited phrasing a bit)

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            8 months ago

            Calling for violence against anyone should be illegal imo. But yes that includes things like telling people to punch nazis.

            Otherwise if they actually do convince people you’re a groomer they’ll think it’s ok to punch you too. “Group x is an exception” or “subject matter y isn’t protected” is the problem, not disallowing certain rhethorics.

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              8 months ago

              Hey look, it’s a cishet white guy who thinks his opinion on hate speech is relevant!

              Punching Nazis will always be necessary and based, no matter what a spineless centrist on the internet has to say about it

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                8 months ago

                U got the white part correct, congrats.

                And no, I just have principles. And well, the intelligence to realize that it’s not the greatest wau forward. Would still press a magic button that instantly kills all nazis, but that doesn’t exist.

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                  8 months ago

                  If your principles are that nazis should be allowed to exist peacefully and spew their hate wherever they want, your principles are shit and you should get some new ones, like actually giving a shit about your minority friends who nazis are actively trying to kill

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                    8 months ago

                    Way to miss the point entirely.

                    Oh well no point trying to talk to someone not even trying to think about things.