The tips, ads, and recommendations you see will be more generic and may be less relevant to you.

And this is treated as a bad thing?!

The number of ads you see won’t change, but they may be less relevant to you.

Send only info about your device, its settings and capabilities, and whether it is performing properly.

In other words, even after turning off all the settings, your data still gets collected.

The rest of the installation process wasn’t fun either. It was worded in this weird, condescending tone, like “Let’s get everything set up for you”, and “Let Cortana help you get things done!”.

Thank goodness for FLOSS and GNU/Linux.

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    The year is 2050

    Booting up Windows84

    Hello, your NSA overseer is Mr. X

    It appears that you have committed 147 thought crimes this week…your accounts shall be ghosted for the time being.

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    Yeah sadly as a gamer I HAVE to put up with Windows. But Next time I build a machine I’m definitely dedicating a whole drive to a linux OS because fuck Windows and their petty marketing shit.

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      I made the jump back last fall. I’ve ran into one game so far I couldn’t play and that was just because of it’s anticheat software (the game was “hell let loose”). Check out Pop!_os. The GPU drivers are preinstalled in the kernel and just work. For both Nvidia and AMD. Steams proton and lutris/wine have made everything easy to play. Never going back to windows now.

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      Personally I treat my windows pc as a gaming console. I play games on it and nothing else. Then it becomes a non issue: so what if they track my gaming activity?

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        There are unfortunately still too many games that my friends and I play that won’t work on Linux. In my own situation, I’d be alienating myself from my friends from switching over even though I really want to. Not to mention I built my PC with a Nvida card which all I hear is that it either works perfectly for you, or you better buy an AMD card so there are still some valid reasons for people not to switch. Once windows 11 is forced upon me is when I’ll cut my losses though. Glad to hear that it’s a good enough experience for you though!

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          I have to agree. I used to play Rainbow 6 with my friends. I enjoyed it, because I was addicted to gaming and they were the only friends I had. After I switched to Linux, I couldn’t play R6 online, which led to them… well… not being friends with me anymore. I’m glad I got out, because if the only thing keeping them being friends with me were the all-nighters of Rainbow, there was no friendship to speak of (I knew these people offline, not just online). After this I eventually stopped gaming completely, not because of a few very minor compatibility issues, but because I realised how much time I was wasting gaming.

          So essentially, not only did Linux help me get back control of my computing, but it also completely eradicated my gaming addiction and helped realise what functioning relationships look like, since I even started socialising more. An absolute bargain!

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      You should get a Steam Deck, I want one as it seems pretty awesome. It runs Linux and you can sail the seven seas like crazy on there, yk?

      Honestly, I haven’t played games in a while but in the future, when I feel like gaming again, the Steam Deck will likely be my thing.

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    If linux had all these settings on installation everyone would be saying that it’s to hard for normies to install

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    As soon as you start running a pihole on your home network it makes really stop and think and want to eradicate all unnecessary data tracking. Windows was so chatty. Science only knows how much of a consumer profile they create and sell on you for just wanting to use a computer.

    Additionally… Smart TV’s are the absolute worst too.

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      Amazon Kindle, too. If there’s a pihole, it freaks out and starts retrying the mothership in a loop until it drains the damned battery. Airplane Mode quiets this, but I hate how aggressive these devices have become.

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    Yea, it’s really shitty.

    Enterprise folks don’t have this problem because they use the WAIK (or whatever it’s called now) to customize the installer.

    Anyone can use it, and from what I’ve read, the Win10 generation of the kit is much easier to use than previous versions (which were pretty bad).

    But yea, this stuff is awful.

    Checkout things like WinDebloat, Privatezilla, Winaero Tweaker, and LoveWindowsAgain. There’s some overlap between them (as they were built for different purposes), but they all pretty much kill telemetry at the service or installed level (as in remove the components providing telemetry).

    Yea, it’s BS you have to do this. And screw MS for this crap.

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      I think the pro version doesn’t have most of this too. I’ve never seen an ad in w10 and 11

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        They don’t show explicit banner ads or anything, but every now and then there will be links to “recommended software” in your start menu’s app drawer or the notification thing in the bottom right (not the taskbar, that foldable drawer thing).

        You can disable those as well, but not by default.

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    Yeah, Windows sucks. I recommend the LTSC version for minimized tracking. But even then, I had to use third-party software and hacks to minimize it further. I don’t ever plan to go back after switching to Linux.

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    Absolutely disgusting! Literally the only reason why I still use Windows is the fact many games I play have anti-cheat spyware that doesn’t work on Linux.

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      Yet another reason I stay away from any game that has online multiplayer PVP teams based setting. I trust anti-cheat as much as I trust that random file you find on [Insert Sketchy Website Link].

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      I use O&O ShutUp10++ (oosu10) to do the same thing. Makes Windows feel like Windows, instead of an ad machine.

      Whenever people complain about ads I have NO idea what they’re talking about.

      Edge will say it’s “maintained by your organization”, which seemed spooky, but that’s just a side-effect from having some privacy.

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        Edge will say it’s “maintained by your organization”, which seemed spooky, but that’s just a side-effect from having some privacy.

        Ooooooh, so that’s why I started seeing that shit. I thought I had a virus, lmao. Cheers.

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      Maybe also not Ubuntu or RHEL? I heard they also collect telemetries and hard to trun off. Unsure.

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        Ubuntu will ask you if usage data can be collected and sent to canonical when you first log in after installation. You get to look at the exact data that would be sent before making a decision and if you say no, then they’ll comply with that and never ask you again.