like I said Russia can barely handle shitting their own pants. they can’t handle someone else shitting their pants too
No one would win a war between NATO and Russia. No one.
NATO has half a million troops. The largest navy and air force in the world. I like their chances
NATO has more troops than that. The united state alone has 2 million.
which is why he’s actively pushing for trump to win so there is no more nato
Let’s exercise to defuse the situation instead. This guy like the kid at school who shouts “fight fight fight” at school!
You know what would defuse the situation? Russia getting the fuck out of Ukraine for starters!
Please volunteer at the front line 😀
I’ll be sure to bring extra ammo bb <3
That reminds me, I should donate to the Ukrainian defense effort again, thanks!
Dont worry if there is going to be ww3 you will be able to tell it the Russians yourself.
Maybe WW III has already started with cyber warfare and psyops where Putin has scored massive victories, effectively installing his useful idiot and taking almost half of the US population out.
Dont worry if there is going to be ww3 you will be able to tell it the Russians yourself.
lmao, Russia would get absolutely stomped especially at this point. They are doomed to be a CCP vassal state.
They can’t even beat a smaller state like Ukraine, NATO would absolutely wreck what’s left of Putin’s shitty little kleptocracy.
All Russia could try to do is launch nukes but they would get glassed immediately.
You live in an insane fantasy world.
You and which army? Have compared just the numbers of not total military personal but actual combat infantry vs support troops. Look man if ww3 comes around everyone who can talk and walk will be drafted. Additionaly how will be Russia glasses? By outdated Minuteman? Ive read how agitators in russia were talking of a 3 day war with Ukraine. Now look yourself. 100.000 have died regardless of “side” and we are still at the borders of 2022 with all fancy NATO equipment. War aint piece of cake. And the people on the top aint gonna fight. Its us who they send.
Go watch all quiet on the western front.
A shitload of armies, wtf do you think NATO is? Also yes, even outdated nukes would do the job just fine: Nobody wins a nuclear war.
You’re right though, the war Putin has been choosing to wage for a decade now is horrific and he should withdraw the people he sent to die from all of Ukraine.
They should also return all of the children they kidnapped and be held accountable for the many, many war crimes that have been committed.
Nobody wants a war between NATO and Russia because in that scenario, everybody loses.
Russia wouldn’t win a ground conflict, but they’d sure-as-hell nuke the fuck out of every major city.
That would be the end of Russia and they know it.
It would also be the end of NATO and probably the rest of the world. That’s why it’s called mutually assured destruction. But it seems like recently policy makers are forgetting that
That’s exactly the point. Why would Russia send nukes if it knows it’ll be destroyed in retribution?
They know they can get a few off if they sacrafice a few Russian cities. Which Putin does not care about. He’ll watch them be vaporized if he thinks he can land a death blow on any major western powers.
Why not just launch them now then?
Why would he?
The poster said he would sacrifice a few cities to take down a western power. He could do that now.
We’d all die
I’ve legitimately been curious about this. The nuclear arms race has been a threat for so long, do western countries really not have a mitigation strategy for them?
I assume we could shoot down any intercontinental weapons, and any airplane that entered allied airspace would immediately be shot down before it could drop a nuke.
Issue is that multiple countries have systems where it’s, “They launched nukes? We’ll launch all our nukes”
The mitigation is basically, “We will wipe you off the map if we think even ONE nuke is coming at us,” and this has nearly happened several times, only stopped because the system has a human at the final step, and humans when realizing they could end the world seem to hesitate
nobody wins or loses. it’s decades of civilian deaths and economic devastation, until someone decides to quit. people think everything is ww2 it’s just not like that.
Good job repeating russian propaganda.
Edit: Not that I care about internet points.
But the thought that opposing russia would lead to nuclear war is exactly what Putin wants people in the west to think to keep bullying and suppressing everyone around him.He is bluffing though and he knows it.
He said delivering supplies to Ukraine was the red line.
He didn’t react when we did.He said delivering arms to Ukraine was the red line.
He didn’t react when we did.He said delivering tanks to Ukraine was the red line.
He didn’t react when we did.He said delivering planes to Ukraine was the red line.
He didn’t react when we did.Because he can’t. He knows he would lose everything.
Both parties have nukes
I’m not convinced Russia’s nukes haven’t been sold off for vodka.
russia has a massive population and a wartime economy. in some ways it’s bigger than all the european nato countries combined. the idea that they would just fall over is absolutely western propaganda.
putin can suck my balls but he’s not an idiot.
Russia can’t even take on a former client state, their military is a joke compared to any single NATO member. They’re not a near peer for the US, maybe a near peer for some of the lesser NATO members. Russia would lose any conventional war against NATO without question. They barely have the personnel to fight Ukraine, they’re not going to be able to go after NATO. Hell, how much of their black sea fleet is left above water? And that’s against a country that doesn’t even have a goddamn Navy.
The only way they would bring out nukes is if we invaded Russia proper. Which I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to do.
NATO vs Russia would be like the Iraq War on steroids. All of their planes would be grounded and their troops in Ukraine would surrender in huge numbers. Drones would not help Russia because NATO troops would move too quickly.
Look at what happened in the first Gulf War. Saddam’s elite Republican Guard troops were destroyed by air and artillery fire, then mopped up in the largest tank battles since WW2.
Saddam had 1 million troops dug in defensively, fighting in territory they knew well, using many of the same weapons the Russians have now. His casualties were like 20% - 30%. Russia would be worse.
Nowdays being a clown is really well paid
From the same people that claimed the Ukraine issue would be resolved in a few weeks, and Russia days from defeat dozens of times since it started. Putin has cancer and wont survive much longer, Russia was using WWII shovels to fight. NATO and the US doesnt want to win war, they want to prolong it. The MIC doesnt want to win war, they want to prolong it.
Why would they want to prolong it?
It’s making them richer than they already are.
