Biden, a supposed foreign policy pragmatist, doesn’t seem bothered that the US is one of the few states that continues to wholeheartedly sustain Israel’s war on Gaza. In fact, Biden has staked his political future on his support for Netanyahu and Israel – and Biden is losing. In this year’s presidential election, where he will most likely face Donald Trump once again, Biden has already lost support among young progressives, Black and Arab American voters, who are all rightfully angry at his refusal to restrain Israel.
Biden allies are raising the alarm that he could lose Michigan, a swing state with substantial Black, Arab and Muslim American voting blocs, because of his Middle East policies. Congressman Ro Khanna, a Biden supporter and progressive Democrat from California who has tried to mediate between Biden’s campaign and Michigan Democrats, warned his team this week: “We cannot win Michigan with status quo policy.”
The Biden administration has consistently underplayed the leverage it has over Israel and Netanyahu. “I think that sometimes people pretend that the United States of America has a magic wand that it can wave to make any situation in the world roll out in exactly the way that we would want it to and that is never the case,” Matthew Miller, the state department spokesperson, said at a press conference on 12 February.
Miller’s flippant comment raises an important question: if Biden can’t use billions of dollars in military aid – and the ability to literally cut off Israel’s supply of bombs – to force Netanyahu to accept a ceasefire, what could Biden do with a magic wand?
These warnings are because we care and want to defeat Trump, too. But Biden *is* on a losing trajectoryBecause people are too dumb to realise that the options are support for Israel or support for Israel + tons more bullshit that will directly make their own lives worse.
and all you’re doing is alienating voters. Blaming voters, all the rhetoric like this… it does not persuade voters to turn out. That’s what we’re trying to tell you. It didn’t work for Hillary, it won’t work for Biden. Doubling down, bullying people. It just makes them more determined to not show up.
if Biden wants to get re-elected; he needs to change course. If you want Biden to get elected… well, there’s not a lot you can do about it, but maybe write a letter or something. I know I have. maybe he’ll listen to you instead of his AIPAC checkwriters.
Well these electors are just Trump electors then because if you don’t vote it means you’re supporting whoever wins.
You deal with the electoral system you’ve got and in the USA it’s a system where you might need to pinch your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils in order to not let the worse one win.
Want a different system? Fine. You’re still dealing with the system in place in the meantime.
Yeah. See.
That’s exactly the rhetoric that doesn’t work.
no. really. It’s not persuasive. particularly when it turns hostile. Something needs to change. There’s a few things that can- Biden can drop out (it really isn’t too late, particularly if he then started campaigning for another candidate; mitigating 90% of the loss of incumbency.); Biden can reverse course on key policies… Gaza, immigration. flak harder on important policies. And ineffectually, messaging to promote the stuff Biden has done. (which IMO is largely… trying to fight a flood with a mop. but there are some rare gems.)
He absolutely needs to change his actions on Israel- and address why it took so long in a way that mitigates the damage already done in messaging.
If facing the facts doesn’t work for you, nothing else was going to. I’ll keep talking about reality, thanks.
A permanent ceasefire would do it for us.
Why won’t Biden do the one thing that would guarantee victory?
Exactly. There a lot of morons like me who are wayyyy too stupid to understand what you just said. We are completely out of touch with reality and cannot be reasoned with nor convinced otherwise.
So either Biden stops the Genocide or loses all these stupid voters that will not vote for Genocide.
We had a nice exchange yesterday but I do think it’s worth pointing out that anyone who would otherwise have voted for Biden, but refuses to vote, is effectively just voting for genocide by different means. That’s not to say you shouldn’t stand on your principles, but the outcome of Biden losing the election is that things stay the same or get worse in Gaza, and definitely get worse in the US.
I completely support acknowledging all that and still making a principled choice, but I do think it should be acknowledged. You aren’t just choosing not to support Biden’s complicity, you are choosing to enable Trumps complicity and enabling the actions Trump will take in the US and elsewhere, none of which are going to be an improvement over what we would get from Biden.
You folks want Biden’s complicity acknowledged? Fine, I’m on board. But you can’t fail to acknowledge the likely impacts of not voting or not voting Biden in November if I"m supposed to take your position seriously, because if you fail to do so you are ignoring the externalities of your decision as much as anyone you might criticize.
The ends do not justify the means.
It is the same loigic that israel uses to commit Genocide. “If we don’t kill them all now, they’re going to kill us all later! We are doing the lesser of evils!” Preventing another possible Genocide by enabling an existing one is not a viable option and will only lead us further down a path of darkness.
We are laying down the ultimatum now. Joe Biden is the person that can decide whether Genocide is more important to him than winning the election.
That’s not what I said.
It is not what you think you said. But it is what you said.
Your desired end is “America not falling to Tump so he “doesn’t Genocide us”” and the means you are willing to use for it is “commit Genocide on another population.”
There is no nuance nor rationalization to justify having little kid their legs sawn off without anesthetics and starving as if it’s the fucking Holocaust.
The genocide ends when enough people shed themselves into being deluded to support Genocide. And people like me will help you by making the first step and saying that we will make 100% certain that Biden loses if the Genocide doesn’t stop.
Not whatsoever. Yes, I do think Trump will do a variety of bad things domestically - but he’s ALSO going to do exactly what Biden is doing in Gaza or worse.
Please reread what I quoted with this context in mind, as the rest of your reply here doesn’t really fit that context.
Trump in the whitehouse means nothing better in Gaza than what is happening there now, and much worse things in the US than the current situation here. Refusing to even acknowledge that truth remains an example of ignoring the externalities of your decision every bit as egregiously as anyone you might criticize.
Good day to you.