• herrcaptain@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    I love this, but I suspect that the average person will see the last one and think, “Perfect! An orderly lawn and less insects.”

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      9 months ago

      I see the top one and think 2 things:

      a) That looks like a lot of maintenance

      And

      b) They conveniently left out spiders, all those other bugs will attract a shit ton of spiders and I hate spiders. I like ladybugs, dragonflies, butterflies and such, but not so much that I’m willing to deal with spiders and wasps.

      If someone has a way to solve both those problems I’m all for it lmao

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      More time and effort. Bottom one takes 30 minutes to mow every 2 weeks. Each and everyone of those plants need to be maintained, trimmed and kept with weekly so it doesn’t look like a disaster. So unless you have 1-2 free hours a day, no one will be actually able to do the top and maintain it so it doesn’t turn to garbage.

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        9 months ago

        You mean “so it doesn’t turn to nature”. You just think nature is garbage.

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            9 months ago

            Personally I respect nature, but don’t like it to be near me. So I prefer to live in places without lawns, like apartments. If I found myself by some miracle in possession of a house with a lawn (in this economy???), I would seek to destroy the lawn and replace it with more house. House is much more useful than lawn. Until I had accomplished that goal, it would just be a useless mass and I wouldn’t waste any time on it except to keep the footpath clear.

            The way white people are like “I want to be responsible for additional household chores so that I can have a useless biological dead zone that ‘looks nice’” is nonsense to me.

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                9 months ago

                I hate to break this to you but lawns were invented by European aristocrats.

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                  TIL having a lawn makes you white.

                  If you wanted to slag off aristocracy you could’ve done that without making it a race thing though.

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        Once you have flowers planted they’re pretty easy to maintain. I have a much larger garden area than what’s pictured. Yes, in the spring I give up a couple of weekends to get it all established but after that it’s just watering it once a day (if required) and then enjoy it for the rest of the season.

        So, that was a long winded way of telling you that you are wrong.

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          Well you must live in a fair weather state, most flowers need to have their bulbs pulled in less hardy places so they don’t die.

          You don’t just need to water, you need to de-weed the gardens, you need to deadhead some flowers, you need to fertilize some or amend it with compost or other nutrients.

          It’s more than a few weekends at the start, and it’s far more than just watering if you don’t want it to look like garbage.

          You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but don’t lie to support it lmfao.

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            9 months ago

            Very old and immobile people garden and do it successfully. You make it sound like this is a difficult task. It is not. I assure you.

            I do not live in any state.

            You can make excuses as to why you do or don’t do things but to claim gardening one’s yard is difficult is laughable.

            If you’re spending hours a day weeding your yard, perhaps whatever turbo fertilizer you’re using should not be used.

            All of what you said is true, but the time required and difficulty of said task is insignificant.

            If your ailment is just laziness then perhaps leaving the house just isn’t for you.

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              What’s with the insults for pointing out some people don’t have all that much free time? I also never brought up the difficulty, so why are you bringing it up like I did? Nice red herring…

              It’s great you have the free time, but most people don’t lmfao. Either that or your yard is a disaster, but you don’t think it is. Proper maintenance is hours a week, not set it and forget it. Thats how yards looks like shit and neighbors hate you.

              Get a gripe on reality dude.

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                You’re spreading misinformation. There is enough of that on the internet already. I called you out for that. Then you said I’m a liar. Now you’re saying my yard is a disaster because I don’t spend 1-2 hours of maintenance on it every day.

                You have no idea what you’re talking about and should not speak as if you do. I’m tired of people like you.

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                  I said it’s more time and effort. You’ve only described how it’s more time effort than 30 minutes of mowing. Oh and the top still needs a mow as well… so it’s the same + more. I really don’t see how your points apply here….

                  So you agreed with me first, than went on a bloviated rant.

                  Look in the mirror lmfao. Also, there’s more than one user who said the same as me, why haven’t you responded to them if that’s your entire issue and point here…?

                  Get a life dude.

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        It’s not true for one simple reason: we need to plan NATIVE plants! They require near no maintainence and do extremely well.

        All the shit you can buy from a garden store is almost always non natives that weve all been tricked into thinking is somehow better. They aren’t. They suck for the ecosystem and they suck to take care of.

        There is no care with native plants. There is only beautiful growth and a healthy ecosystem.

        Plant. Native.

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      My landlord exactly. Dude hires people to spray the yard every year because God forbid ants try to approach the building. I’ve tried convincing him not to but he wasn’t having it. I talked to my neighbor and it turns out the guy used to edge the lawn with scissors. Luckily my neighbor is way more agreeable and we’re redoing his lawn more in line with the picture

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        A toxic moat around the house might be a better option than sterilizing all life in the garden. Also cool to look at if you color it green and install some lighting

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      9 months ago

      Some people just want to see the world burn (or don’t know better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

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      9 months ago

      I mean… I agree with all of you…but I hate bugs…unless they are sea bugs those I eat.

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    Yeah this is not really selling it because most people have a negative amount of interest in more bugs

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    I don’t see mosquitoes, ticks, chiggers, ants (ants especially on the vines on the house) spiders, roaches, centipedes, or a dozen other specialized bugs that eat your vegetable garden.

    My yard looks like a mix of 1 and 2, but there’s a lot of negatives to your daily life with any of the 3 options and this biased graphic clearly wants you to pick 1 or at least 2 over 3.

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    Got a couple of acres of swamp down here. Friend of mine won’t visit because of the mosquitoes. Makes sense, right? Swamp = mosquitos.

    But there are hardly any! Might get buzzed twice at sundown, that’s it, far worse at my home. Also, unlike everywhere else in the South, there are zero fire ants. Literally not a single ant to be found.

    All because I have a robust ecosystem out there. The tiny “ground attack” spiders, whatever they’re called, are legion. You won’t see one unless you look for 'em, or shine a flashlight across the ground at night. 100s of thousands per acre, maybe a million+.

    I got banana spiders with fat webs for traps, dragonflies and hummingbirds for helicopters and jets. Tiny lizards prowl everywhere. Tiny fish in the “ponds” eat any larva or eggs that get in there, sometimes surface bugs.

    All that scales up to snakes (oddly rare), small mammals, raptors, you get the idea.

    tl;dr: Healthy system = hellish Deathworld for insects.

    One other note: I’ve cleared about 1,200sq./ft. at the main camp site. Just that tiny bit of clearing is noticeably hotter than 60’-80’ down the trail. Haven’t taken thermometer readings, but you can feel an easy 5°F drop. Amazing that such a small spot becomes a heat island. Now look at the top and bottom pics. Does the bottom pic look hot to you? Does the top pic evoke feelings of coolness? Yeah. Imagine what our cities, roads and fields are doing to the overall environment.

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      I don’t have a swamp, but I have a wooded yard and can attest to most of what you said. However, in addition to the plethora of bug species and legion of spiders, I also have a shitload of mosquitos.

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    9 months ago

    I can tell you from experience that if you neglect your garden for about 15 years, it does not look like that top one at all.

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    9 months ago

    Who cares about (most) bugs, the first one just straight up looks the best

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      I think the second one looks the best. When I move I plan to get rid of most of the manicured lawn but I still think a bit of it is nice to have