• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    "Why do they need this?" he [Putin] said.

    Because the last country you said didn’t need NATO is currently under 30% occupation by your military while the remaining 70% is being attacked daily by that same military of yours.

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      NATO really needs to step up their game when it comes to those “softer” attacks via misinformation and using refugees as a weapon though

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      “My russia”!? Hey guys, I think we found Putin’s nick here.

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    Finland got accelerated NATO membership because of Russia/Putin making a bunch of threats about them so i think they damn well did have problems before. Fucking creep.

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      Finnish opinion polls had NATO membership at less than 50 percent for decades, until the Ukraine war when it became far more popular. Putin has no one to blame but himself.

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    FAFO. Finland already has a reputation for knowing how to deal with stupid Russians.

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      That’s not really accurate, even if it’s not entirely inaccurate.

      The Winter War, like many Russian (Soviet) victories, was initially an exercise in bloodletting and embarrassment. The Stalinist purges lead the Red Army to be comically ill prepared for a winter invasion against a prepared Finnish defense (aided by Germany), but the war still ended with the Soviets gaining additional territory.

      *This is NOT intended as a parallel for any current events, just commentary on some historical ones.

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    Finland’s plan is to smash a bunch of Nokia 3310s with runes on them, in a hydraulic press with Hakita’s blood, and Simo Hayah will pop out of the fucking ether with a Mosin

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    Preeetty sure a lot of Finns right now would love nothing more than Putin to give them an excuse to uh, expend their munition stockpiles in an Easterly direction.

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    For now it’s just barking. But we’ll have years of this bullshit if the Russians ‘win’ in Ukraine, especially if Trump wins and weakens NATO by even hinting at the US not coming to the defence of allies.

    Even if Putin isn’t dumb enough to actually invade the Baltics or Finland, the Russians will engage in an endless stream of provocations. Military exercises and buildups near the border, bomber runs that are aborted at the last moment, that kind of thing. The likelihood of a miscalculation or mistake will increase dramatically.

    On the other hand, if the Ukrainians win, Russia will never be able to withdraw significant amounts of troops from the Ukrainian border. Ukraine is a large and highly educated country, with a battle hardened military, and with a long history of weapons making. Russia will effectively have been muzzled for the foreseeable future.

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      the Russians will engage in an endless stream of provocations

      🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

      Always has been.

      Brinkmanship is one of russian favorite pastimes.

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    Finland isn’t just another NATO member, either. It puts Russia in a hairy strategic position.

    In a war directly against NATO, Russia would have had access to the Atlantic through the Baltic Sea by way of St Petersburg. Now, though, NATO controls much of the Baltic Sea, and St Petersburg is in easy striking distance from either Finland or Estonia. It’s also easier to hit the big Russian naval base at Murmansk. NATO can basically bottle up Russia from having any access to the Mediterranean and Atlantic.

    Not only that, but NATO has less to worry about for supplying Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Russia could have cut them off between the Kaliningrad exclave and their ally Belarus, but that’s less viable now.

    Putin knows all this, and has to calculate what it means for starting anything. He’s boxed in and he knows it. Really shows how much he failed merely by invading Ukraine at all.