I can’t verify it because there is no name or information about the person who did it in the news, but I assumed that it was a person who came to France later. After all, I don’t think there were many Muslims in France 100 years ago 😅 Even if he wasn’t, my thoughts still stand.
In the same comment chain, I’ve said that “normal muslims” can become radicalized as well. We’re in welfare times right now. What will happen in WW3? What will happen when your country attacks to a muslim country? Can you guarentee those peaceful Muslims will still be peaceful?
You’re still thinking “white/black/brown” debate. I’m talking about waaayy different subject. You know exactly what people I’m talking about. You are just trying to bend the situation.
No you werent. You were making braod assumptions that are already proven to be wrong and you blame it on “Islam”, which implies “all Muslims”, despite there being evidence of psychiatric disorder in the suspect. Schizophrenia and other disorders with mania often express themselves in religious symbols. but if a psychatric ill person refers to Christianity would you say that this is Christianity for everyone? Probably not.
Also you should consider carefully, if you want to stir more anti-Muslim sentiment. When it comes to progroms, the people will not care if you are muslim, atheist, christian or jew. They’ll just see a “brown” person. You might get praise from the political right now, but they will not protect you, no matter how loudly you announce to be different from the other “brown people”.
Have you never asked yourself why so many people of this one religion turn out to have “psychological problems”? What are the chances of that statistically if, as you seem to suggest, religion has nothing to do with this?
Next, this person is trying to disassociate their skin color from their opinion, and in response you are insisting on essentializing them on the basis of biology. Have you considered how close this puts you to people you claim to abhor?
Regardless of color, I was saying that the west should be careful about Muslims. And I still say that. I don’t have any ulterior motives. Interpret it however you want.
There is no point in calling me a bigot without giving any reason.
Who are you to tell others how to think? Asking them to apologize, are you serious? The level of self-righteousness and self-absorption in your attitude is worrying.
I’m not telling him what to think. I’m telling him he’s being a little coward, throwing the rock then hiding the hand.
So it’s up to him. Either he didn’t mean to be a horrible bigot, then he can apologize for it and we’re cool. Or he did, and then he has to own it.
I’m not telling him what to think. He’s free to be a bigot. God knows it’s a pretty widespread affliction. But he can’t deliberately engage in that kind of behavior and get away with equivocating hoping no one notices.
attitude is worrying
No, what is worrying is accepting that behavior in a public place. This is not, and will not be, the Nazi bar.
The whole concept of apologizing for opinions is just, well, wild. To me yes but I assure you to quite a lot of other people too. Not wanting to make this personal, but I would put money on a wager that you belong to a certain generation. One that, let’s say, is particularly certain of its moral rectitude and doesn’t put much stock in the value of free speech and the exchange of ideas.
What did I said and then tried to spin about? I never included skin color. You bring it there. I’m not gonna sorry because you understand my sentences wrong.
Let me guess you’re from Iran? Sounds like every Iranian I’ve ever met. Your problem isn’t Islam or any other religion, your problem is being oppressed by a facist dictatorship that uses a religion to legitimize themselves. If they had labeled themselves as Zoroastrians then you’d live under pretty much the same fucked up regime, but you’d blame it all on Zoroastrians instead of a bunch of dicks who fucked over your country for their own benefit.
Cool then replace Zoroastrians with Kemalists and also replace Iranian with expat in the West from Istanbul and we’re all set except that Kemalists were in power before and weren’t any less fascist than Islamists.
Well but Kemalism is also just a cult of personality with a nationalist agenda attached to it.
I can only repeat. The problem is fascists doing fascist stuff. And finding whatever reason to justify it. The most deadly dictatorships in history were all non religious.
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Dude it was done by a French citizen.
I can’t verify it because there is no name or information about the person who did it in the news, but I assumed that it was a person who came to France later. After all, I don’t think there were many Muslims in France 100 years ago 😅 Even if he wasn’t, my thoughts still stand.
He was born in France, lived in Neuilly-sur-Seine, a wealthy neighborhood
He definitely had psychological disorders.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/12/03/paris-attack-what-we-know-about-armand-r-who-killed-one-and-injured-others-near-the-eiffel-tower_6308641_7.html
Maghreb immigration to France started in the 1960s, so three generations ago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs_in_France
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I never said that?
I literally quoted the article
And I’m saying is, they always use “psychological disorders” excuse.
If it was psyco, then it would never been same way, same words, same motivations.
This is not a “psychological disorder”. It is a regular radicalized Muslim.
So, not all Muslims? Because your previous comment states the opposite
In the same comment chain, I’ve said that “normal muslims” can become radicalized as well. We’re in welfare times right now. What will happen in WW3? What will happen when your country attacks to a muslim country? Can you guarentee those peaceful Muslims will still be peaceful?
The name won’t tell you if they were born in France or not.
And you can still be French even if your family hasn’t been living in France for 4 generations.
I guess what you mean to say is “you can’t really be French if you’re not white”?
You’re still thinking “white/black/brown” debate. I’m talking about waaayy different subject. You know exactly what people I’m talking about. You are just trying to bend the situation.
What you said was bigoted af. Stop trying to spin this. Apologize or stop pretending you’re not a racist scumbag.
First of all, I’m a brown, middle-eastern person.
I was just trying to explain dangers of Islam. My country turned into shariah shithole in 20 years from secular.
“im Brown, I can’t be racist”
Lol
They said you’re anti non-white. I told them I’m not a white. That’s why I said “I’m brown”, dummy.
No you werent. You were making braod assumptions that are already proven to be wrong and you blame it on “Islam”, which implies “all Muslims”, despite there being evidence of psychiatric disorder in the suspect. Schizophrenia and other disorders with mania often express themselves in religious symbols. but if a psychatric ill person refers to Christianity would you say that this is Christianity for everyone? Probably not.
Also you should consider carefully, if you want to stir more anti-Muslim sentiment. When it comes to progroms, the people will not care if you are muslim, atheist, christian or jew. They’ll just see a “brown” person. You might get praise from the political right now, but they will not protect you, no matter how loudly you announce to be different from the other “brown people”.
The dangers of Islam are the assumptions I made. History will say am I was right or wrong.
IDC does anyone likes me or not. I’m person thinking exactly like this without pressure of “being different from other brown people”
Have you never asked yourself why so many people of this one religion turn out to have “psychological problems”? What are the chances of that statistically if, as you seem to suggest, religion has nothing to do with this?
Next, this person is trying to disassociate their skin color from their opinion, and in response you are insisting on essentializing them on the basis of biology. Have you considered how close this puts you to people you claim to abhor?
You have my sympathy, but this does not meaningfully change anything.
Your comment was still bigoted af.
Regardless of color, I was saying that the west should be careful about Muslims. And I still say that. I don’t have any ulterior motives. Interpret it however you want.
There is no point in calling me a bigot without giving any reason.
Stop defending terrorists dude
Who are you to tell others how to think? Asking them to apologize, are you serious? The level of self-righteousness and self-absorption in your attitude is worrying.
I’m not telling him what to think. I’m telling him he’s being a little coward, throwing the rock then hiding the hand.
So it’s up to him. Either he didn’t mean to be a horrible bigot, then he can apologize for it and we’re cool. Or he did, and then he has to own it.
I’m not telling him what to think. He’s free to be a bigot. God knows it’s a pretty widespread affliction. But he can’t deliberately engage in that kind of behavior and get away with equivocating hoping no one notices.
No, what is worrying is accepting that behavior in a public place. This is not, and will not be, the Nazi bar.
The whole concept of apologizing for opinions is just, well, wild. To me yes but I assure you to quite a lot of other people too. Not wanting to make this personal, but I would put money on a wager that you belong to a certain generation. One that, let’s say, is particularly certain of its moral rectitude and doesn’t put much stock in the value of free speech and the exchange of ideas.
What did I said and then tried to spin about? I never included skin color. You bring it there. I’m not gonna sorry because you understand my sentences wrong.
Keep them to yourself.
Why should I listen to your directives? Are you authority here?
Ewwww.
‘Born in France in 1997 to Iranian parents’
So… yeah, you’re right.
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Let me guess you’re from Iran? Sounds like every Iranian I’ve ever met. Your problem isn’t Islam or any other religion, your problem is being oppressed by a facist dictatorship that uses a religion to legitimize themselves. If they had labeled themselves as Zoroastrians then you’d live under pretty much the same fucked up regime, but you’d blame it all on Zoroastrians instead of a bunch of dicks who fucked over your country for their own benefit.
Turkiye
Cool then replace Zoroastrians with Kemalists and also replace Iranian with expat in the West from Istanbul and we’re all set except that Kemalists were in power before and weren’t any less fascist than Islamists.
Kemalism is not efficient as Islam when it comes to fascism tho. Religion and nationality are much better tool when it comes to manipulating people.
Well but Kemalism is also just a cult of personality with a nationalist agenda attached to it.
I can only repeat. The problem is fascists doing fascist stuff. And finding whatever reason to justify it. The most deadly dictatorships in history were all non religious.