“Wow, I can’t believe these fire sticks are so cheap”
Bought an early one. Used it for less than a year.
I still have it. Can they be flashed with Lineage or something?
That one guy hacked a company with a fire stick lol
What? That’s crazy, I’ve never heard this story. Got anything I should search on?
Only old firmwares
Meh, could be fun to play with. Keep it on a DMZ lab segment.
I’m surprised it wasn’t showing ads before. The fire tablets are discounted if they show ads on the lock screen.
The enshittification will continue until moral improves.
The EU seems to be the only major entity actually trying at this point.
God Bless the EU.
Experienced this for the first time yesterday. It’s my dad paying for Amazon, and we mutually discovered we couldn’t skip the ad. Asked him, “aren’t you gonna boycott it now?”, and he told me no. “Not too much of an issue”, he said. This is the attitude that enables enshittification.
Fuck that. High seas it is, they can kiss my ass. I will not pay to watch advertisements.
Probably because one ad is like nothing compared to what we used to have to deal with on broadcast TV. Sadly the general public who have only just recently gotten into streaming in the last few years still have those kinds of ad breaks fresh in memory.
I was halfway through reading and thinking that it would be a wholesome ending. I guess not.
awesome! i love unskippable ads! especially when i pay monthly to even use the service! bezos always getting W’s!!!
No end to the greed of these corporations.
You can skip them. It’s more like a screen saver than anything.
Didn’t know they made CRTs that support a FireTV stick.
You can update the TVs settings to block these new large video ads. However, Amazon is getting more and more intrusive with its ads. I imagine that, similar to the Alexa Shows that I also use, every few weeks they’ll tweak the ads, making your previous “disable this” settings no longer applicable. It’s technically a new ad type, so they can auto enable it again. Super frustrating.
Largely in response to these new autoplay ads, I replaced my Fire TV with an LG TV. I’ve got another LG TV from only a few years ago that doesn’t really have ads. This one… does. Damn it. Don’t get me wrong, they’re much less in-your-face when compared to Amazon’s ads. But, damn, does everything just have to be ads now?
My LG TV updated to show ads in the input selection menu. I was pissed for a few months until someone showed me you can disable them in the settings. Maybe you can disable them on yours?
You switched from a system that is currently shitty (Fire TV) but easily replaceable (just an HDMI addon) to a system that is currently less shitty (LG TV) but now you are firmly locked in into the LG eco system.
As bad as FireTV currently is, at least you can easily ditch it. Just pull the plug and buy another brand of TV stick.
If you keep relying on your smart TV apps then you will have to endure the slow shittyfication for years to come.
What setting disables the current ones?
For all of Apple’s faults, their Apple TV is pretty decent. A home screen with apps on them; no ads. It’s great
God, if I could just install SmartTube and Kodi/Stremio on an Apple TV, I’d convert in a heartbeat. Until then, I’ll keep my Shield TV Pro.
Chromecast with stremio is still the perfect streaming setup for me, now if only the voice recognition on the remote was a bit less shit.
Chromecast with stremio
Just so that people are aware, from stremio’s privacy policy…
The analytics technology we use is Google Analytics. To learn more about Google Analytics and your privacy, visit https://www.google.com/analytics/learn/privacy.html. To opt out of being tracked by Google Analytics you can use various browser addons such as https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout or https://www.ghostery.com/ .
this is just a smidgen of the first-world’s self-inflicted punishment. very excited to see what happens next.
Currently using a Roku Streambar for all of our streaming needs but if they pull this crap, everything we consume will be downloaded, served on my Plex server and streamed using the gaming PC I have under our TV.
Getting beyond sick of these companies using every measure and device they can to shit ads into our eyes.
What OS are you using for the gaming pc under your TV? Wanted to do something alike but don’t know what would be the best OS for something like that
The best OS for your HTPC is whatever OS you’re comfortable with
As I wrote on the other comment, I was looking for something easy and fast to use even if I’m on the couch. Something that i could set to almost look like a smart tv but that could also work with steam link/moonlight. So honestly I’m comfortable with windows but don’t think it would be the best OS to use for my case
i mostly use windows on the tv, an old laptop and a wireless kb/trackpad. runs cool, even with the lid closed all the time. reliably wakes up outputting to the external ‘monitor’ as long as it hasn’t ‘lost’ its connection to the tv (can’t unplug that input temporarily for another device–would have to flip open the laptop lid later to re-enable the external-only setting), and it’s new enough (skylake) to have decoding in hardware for the formats i’ve been using.
the other hdmi is a linux sff desktop set up similarly, but i haven’t got all the kinks worked out yet.
use firefox (with addons and some userscripts|styles) for online sites, and usb externals or lan connection for ‘saved’ content. shortcuts on the desktop (to web sites, playlists, lan shares) function as the ‘home screen’ or ‘launch’ page.
i do have the tv ‘online’ atm, though, because a lot of pluto ‘live’ tv get watched here, and the tv ‘app’ is faster and more reliable than their web site. the remote has a hotkey for it, too, which goes directly to the last ‘channel’ it was on.
Thanks for the thorough explanation! So you just use windows on the old laptop, no Kodi or anything else?
yup. just windows (or linux) desktop applications and networking. i don’t need a ‘10-foot’ ui; and don’t (atm, anyway) need the remote streaming capabilities or other features of a jellyfin or plex.
the keyboard i have is an original logitech k400. it’s really the piece that makes my setup usable, otherwise i’d have a full-sized separate kb and mouse sitting on the ‘coffee table’ (it’s really just a low-standing tv shelf on wheels) instead.
Yeah that’s a nice keyboard, maybe i’ll think about it because it seems really useful and compact at the same time! Thank you again for everything :)
These devices were annoying a decade ago. Comical that people still buy these when Roku and Android TV are so much nicer.
I have an nvidia shield (android TV) and it had 3/4 of my screen dedicated to ads. I was able to swap my launcher, but still frustrating
OK what the hell. This is the platform I was considering jumping into. Is nothing sacred anymore? That thing costs a fortune by TV stick standards.
Yep, everything is fucked. You can put kodi on a raspberry pi though I guess
You honestly got me thinking about the viability of throwing android TV on an RP4. I have one that I was going to use for a magic mirror, but I never got around to building it. I’m guessing I could find a remote and an IR module for the RP4, then just load android TV to it? Time to go down the rabbit hole…
I wouldn’t put android TV. Kodi has plex and jellyfin addon and definitely won’t have ads ever, or if it does it’ll quickly be forked
What Android TV device do you recommend?
They all have ads now… But I like our Chromecast with Google TV and our Nvidia Shield TV. Both super easy to use and can side load apps
Xiaomi TV Stick 4k. I got an Amazon Fire TV stick, hated it very much, but luckily for me it malfunctioned after a month, and i managed to get a “refund” that was limited to the amazon store. I spent the money on the xiaomi alternative that came with android tv, as it was about the same price, but you can install (and keep installed) a custom loader without ads, and never have to update anything it if you don’t want it. But be careful, some newer models from xiaomi come with google tv instead, which is probably harder to have control over privacy/ads.
Our household completely ditched all Amazon products and services 4 or so years ago and never looked back. I shop local and on alternative sites for everything, it took a little adjusting at first. I think we have had to buy something from Amazon maybe once or twice in the last 4 years because I we couldn’t get it anywhere else. A few months ago I switched the 1 Amazon product we had owned forever, a Fire Stick to a Roku the first company I had ever used a streaming device from 10-15 years ago, I thought briefly about wiping the Fire Stick and donating it, but decided to toss it with the thought of adding someone else’s user data to the Bezos empire.
Can you still hack the shit out of fire sticks or did they clamp down on that?
McDonalds!
Skip Skip Skip, you’ve used up all your skips. Upgrade Now for more skips. No thanks I’ll have my mp3s. 1600 fit on a 16G thumb for $3.89/ea. At that price I gift them to friends to hold for backups. I own them. My mp3s will outlive the sun.
And Google Tv just did this. Sigh
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This is so annoying. It goes into a full screen ad as soon as you turn it on, so I babysit the remote and navigate to an app as soon as it turns on, in order to avoid ads. It also does this if you let the TV idle, which I also hate. I might just throw it away and go back to hooking up a laptop to the TV instead. I paid $70-ish bucks for this stupid thing.
Edit: I just remembered that you can hack these fire sticks, so i’ll probably try that first.
Isn’t there some consumer protection law against this, I mean this is really invasive and not doing what you expected it to do when you bought it.
I think this will be the last year I’m an Amazon Prime customer. Their music streaming is beyond shitty, all the stuff that interests me on Instant Video isn’t free anyway, and I don’t buy enough Prime-eligible products to make the 100-ish euros worth it.
I find it interesting how they can get away with increasing the costs while reducing the service.
Enshittification.
