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      That’s why it always confuses me when so many women want to get married for married sake.

      This time period is a brief aberration, the institution of marriage, dating back thousands of years before Jesus, has always historically been a property transaction, with the wife being the property exchanged for property/familial status. There are still parts of the world where that is the case.

      At least 4,000 years isn’t wiped away in a hundred. Personally, I think a romantic, consenting partnership should have entirely new terminology attached to it. Rehabbing the institution of marriage is like trying to rehab the term enslavement.

      Hell marriage is already regressing back to its natural/historical state here in the US, with several states trying to abolish no fault divorce to remove any agency women have won with regards to romantic partnership.

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    Oh no you see adoption. We have the best adoption centers and pro lifers line up to adopt. Adopters get training and support, adoptees get excellent pre-K and excellent public schools. Everyone gets excellent universal healthcare. See?

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      The sad thing is that stable, loving families will line up to adopt a healthy newborn. But then you have some of the same fuckers shaming the mother because that’s somehow dodging your responsibilities or taking the easy way out.

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        Don’t forget conservatives blocking out thousands of married gay and lesbian couples from adopting despite them ACTIVELY wanting to adopt.

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          Poe’s Law, without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, any parody or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.

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            It can be helpful for anyone when reading text that doesn’t indicate tone very well.

            Not everyone is a professional writer that can properly express sarcasm through text

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    the questions that follow are why do they want to control women? and how much control do they want over women?

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          Some people are wired wrong and just absolute sociopaths.

          Some people are convinced that others are inferior and would benefit from being controlled by their superiors.

          Some people are filled with fear, and think control will assuage this fear.

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          Why do billionaires exist? Because it’s never enough for many. You would think a sane person who gets to 100 million dollars would get bored and do something other than hoard money, but it’s never enough.

          Same with control. Some aren’t happy with anything in their life being beyond their control, including the people in their lives.

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      Because power brings them some measure of enjoyment, and they take perverse pleasure in cruelty in particular. All of it.

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      That’s how it worked in The Good Old Days, and everything was fine! (For men, but with money, but also white, and definitely Christian)

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      Thats a complete misunderstanding. The real issue is that a baby shouldn’t be murdered.

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        I need a kidney and you’re the only compatible donor. If you don’t let me have one of your kidneys, it’s murder, right?

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        what baby? a fetus is not a baby. what you want to do is force a girl or a woman to carry a fetus to term in her body and endure the labour birth it from her body, against her will. That’s pro-forced-pregnancy and pro-forced-birth. then she will be forced to care for a baby that she did not want. This is some sadistic bullshit, and shows hatred for girls, women, and for children.

        if you like birthing babies so much, go get pregnant and pop them out every few months.

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        You are right! A baby shouldn’t be murdered. Thankfully we have murder charges for people who kill babies.

        Unfortunately, I don’t think you know what a baby is. A baby comes after a viable fetus comes out of the womb, until that point it is just called a fetus.

        I’m going to give you a very simple analogy: Let’s say you ordered a new Tesla. You put in your order and wait a bit and your order is finally ready. You are delivered your brand new half a car! If I call it a car then it’s a car right?

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            That’s okay it that’s your opinion.

            Don’t get one, if that’s your choice.

            Don’t tell other people how to live their lives.

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                Murder is an abstract concept that society gets to define. Currently, the crime of murder is something that only happens to live humans with functioning bodies. The criminal definition and the generally accepted definition are in agreement. You are in a minority. Most people do not believe what you believe. Why would we change our laws to reflect what a minority of people believe?

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                what victim? a fetus? if a fetus is a victim then every sperm that did not get to fertilize an egg is also a victim. because it could’ve become a fetus that a woman could be forced to carry & birth. It was prevented from being born.

                Girls & women are living, breathing human beings whose human right to autonomy over their body & their right to consent is taken away and they are dehumanized and forced to become incubators by anti-abortionists. To ignore their humanity, ignore the dehumanization they have to endure and live with for the rest of their lives because of anti-abortionists, but declare a fetus as a human is perversity that only those who hate girls & women are capable of…

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        You’re vegan I take it?

        No? So you’re actually totally in support of babies getting murdered, you just don’t think women should have any say over what happens to their bodies? Got it, thanks for sharing.

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    Control we never should have given conservatives if only 6 years ago a few more people decided to go vote in that crucial presidential election.

    That pivotal election set the ground work for a whole host of terrible SC decisions recently, including Biden’s tuition loan forgiveness program getting struck down.

    I’d like to think that Americans have learned from that recent history, but who am I kidding? They will bitch and moan about this terrible decision NOW, but won’t think about what will happen in the future if they decide to sit out more elections.

    Actions - and inaction - have consequences.