• SCB@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Man, I’m so tired of seeing “human shield” comments

    I, too, am tired of Hamas purposely encouraging civilian casualties.

    On the other hand, if Hamas were to level any of those military buildings in residential areas of Israel, is there any doubt in your mind that Hamas would be accused of war crimes?

    They absolutely would be doing this if the Iron Dome did not exist, and sometimes accomplish it even when it does.

    Quick reminder this entire shitfestival began with Hamas murdering over a thousand innocent people directly.

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      1 year ago

      If you honestly think this began on October 7th, 2023, then you should genuinely stay out of this discussion until you educate yourself on the last 100 years of history.

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        i mean if you want to bring up Palestine losing two separate wars and thus losing their land, and Hamas refusing every single peace treaty (even though the West Bank accepted the terms), feel free.

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        1 year ago

        This war most assuredly began then as 0 IDF forces were in Gaza for years prior.

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          This is the manipulative framing people love to use but anyone with even a passing understanding of what’s happening can see how manipulative it is.

          You’re referring to Gaza which has been under blockade/siege since Israel withdrew. By framing it how you have you ignore the reality that even without a direct occupation Israel is crushing Gaza from a health perspective, a social perspective, and a financial perspective.

          Not to mention Gaza isn’t the only Palestinian territory. In the time since Israel began sieging Gaza, the West Bank has seen upwards of fifty Palestinians killed per year by Israeli settlers, all backed by IDF soldiers. This is in a territory without Hamas by the way.

          It takes some serious ignorance to act like Israel isn’t directly responsible for the abject poverty of Palestinians.

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            1 year ago

            You’re referring to Gaza which has been under blockade/siege since Israel withdrew. By framing it how you have you ignore the reality that even without a direct occupation Israel is crushing Gaza from a health perspective, a social perspective, and a financial perspective.

            If Hamas wasn’t stealing from Gazans, and didn’t exist as a political leader solely for the purpose of denying normalization of relations and Palestinian statehood while enforcing a less secular, more extremist state, you might have a point here.

            Unfortunately for everyone, that’s why Hamas exists.