• Yote.zip@pawb.social
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    11 months ago

    Hey this is your friendly reminder to spread out in the Fediverse. Stop making communities on the big servers. Now all those users just lost a big chunk of content and they’re likely to leave Lemmy and spread the word about how the Fediverse will never work because of trigger-happy admins.

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      11 months ago

      On the other side, you still want an instance that will last long enough.

      We lost lemmy.film a few weeks back, that was a loss for everyone invested in the main community (about movies and films).

      But I agree with you that we should spread about communities across servers. I like lemm.ee and sh.itjust.works, the admins seem pretty chill and really use defederation as last resort.

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        11 months ago

        Personally I prefer sticking with smaller instances of maybe a few hundred or a thousand users. The more evenly spread out we are across instances, the more democratized the federation is.

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      11 months ago

      The problem with that is that you aren’t going to comment the same thing across different instances of what’s basically the same community, you generally want to engage with the most users. I recently got banned under false accusations, and it’s pretty easy to see when it happened because the amount of upvotes and engagement dropped drastically between comments to the same instance - only the people from my instance were seeing it now.

      The next step for lemmy might be the concept of mirrored communities where comments are automatically propagated across instances if they belong to the same owners and they have it enabled. Admins would control access/visibility for users of their instance, and the community owners would control the access/visibility of all instances they’ve reserved the community under. Admins could just decide to remove all the moderators/de-federate the community in the instance they control to sever the mirroring and create their own, but it might still help the smaller instances to get going.

      I’m not sure how admins, specially the ones who are ok with lying to their users, would be ok with it, and it’s meaningless if they just wield their charisma and taint those communities as well. So far, they are pretty blatant, yet admins either aren’t bothering to check the evidence or they simply don’t want to de-federate, which is just another way of condoning their behavior to avoid risking user engagement. Adding mirrored communities into the mix may just not solve it because the problem is still there: a divided user base who’s getting treated like cattle without them knowing.