• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    Hey buddy? They both are. Israel is why Palestine is an open-air prison. Israel is the side that keeps killing those human shields, indiscriminately, without one shred of remorse. Apartments, hospitals, refugee centers, whatever.

    Maybe inviting the world’s Jews to “go back to Africa” in the exact goddamn center of the Muslim middle-east was not a sensible idea, in terms of minimizing ethno-religious strife.

    No country wanted to kill as many Germans as possible - they wanted the fucking war to end. They wanted to kill Hitler specifically, disrupt the Nazi regime, and go back to merely civilized levels of hating one another. Israel hasn’t fucking done that, with Palestine. Mostly they’ve just continued bombing. They’ve made token efforts to claim they want a rehabilitated Palestinian state… but always alongside collective abuses like the strict blockade that obviously leaves Israel in de-facto control of the region’s survival.

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      11 months ago

      first of all, I’m not your buddy.

      Palestine is not an open-air prison, Gaza is. Israel is the one killing human shields, Palestine is the one using human shields.

      award doesn’t exist as a tit for tat, You kill X number of us, and we get to kill X number of you. Hamas has very explicitly and openly called for the extermination of Jews and Israel and elimination of Jews from the Middle East. Israel has not made any sort of comparable claims about Palestine or Arabs or Muslims. If Israel gets their way then Palestine and Hamas will stop bombing Israel. If Palestine gets their way then there will be no more Israel.

      Palestine is a Muslim theocracy. Israel is secular and multicultural with a theocratic majority. There’s a difference.

      and it seems you understand my analogy about World War II perfectly, you just don’t seem to understand how it applies. Palestinians are the Germans. Israelis are everybody else.

      and yes the reason that Gaza is an open air prison is because THEY keep bombing Israel. The Iron Dome doesn’t exist to protect Palestine from Israeli bombs. It exists to protect Israel from Palestinian bombs. All of this, ALL OF THIS, is anti-semitism. Everything you’re saying is just liberal college kid idiocy buying into antisemitic propaganda.

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        11 months ago

        Have it your way.

        Hey asshole - don’t split hairs about Gaza versus Palestine, then freely swap between Palestine and Hamas!

        For the second and final time: saying you’re gonna do it is not the only thing that counts. Israel’s actions constitute genocide. What they say does not matter. The fact Hamas says it out loud neither absolves Israel nor condemns the rest of Palestine.

        If Palestine gets their way, they’ll stop being a densely-populated ghetto amid fresh piles of rubble. Israel will stop using the actions of Hamas to justify killing X*10 number of Palestinians. Children and journalists will stop getting shot near the fuckoff enormous wall keeping them pressed against a sea they’re not really allowed to use.

        Human shields did not bomb Israel. Declaring “THEY” keep doing it is collective punishment - also a war crime, by the way. All of this is two sides that fucking hate each other and keep doing obscene violence to each other, and your dumb ass wants to pretend it’s just a poor widdle innocent nuclear power being existentially threatened by people without consistent access to food.

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          11 months ago

          Disagree. If you’re a piece of crap enough to use human shields, and those human shields support your politics… bye bye human shields.

          Again, it ain’t genocide. Palestinians will stop getting killed when they kick out Hamas.

          Also, Palestine as a culture sucks compared it Israel. If all countries were like Israel humanity would benefit, if all countries were like Palestine humanity would suffer. I’m on team superior culture.